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Old 9th May 2013, 11:17
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BBC News - Age of consent should be 13, says barrister
A prominent barrister specialising in reproductive rights has called for the age of consent to be lowered to 13.

Barbara Hewson told online magazine Spiked that the move was necessary in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal to end the "persecution of old men".
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Old 9th May 2013, 11:29
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Wouldn't it be more practical just to dispose of all the old men?

Less pensions costs, less bus passes, less medical costs, winter fuel allowance etc, and no wasted legal costs.
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Old 9th May 2013, 11:32
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Getting rid of Barristers might be a good start.
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Old 9th May 2013, 11:33
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The Hardwicke chambers, where Ms Hewson works in London, said it dissociated itself from her comments.
In a statement, Hardwicke said: "We are shocked by the views expressed in Barbara Hewson's article in Spiked.
"We did not see or approve the article pre-publication and we completely dissociate ourselves from its content and any related views she may have expressed via social media or any other media outlets."
Says it all, really. How much further out on a limb can a person go, than having their own chambers disown their bizarre views?
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Already posted that in JS thread.
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Interesting that it is a woman barrister...
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Old 9th May 2013, 11:35
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Probably ugly and never had a sasauge in her purse, but I digress.
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Old 9th May 2013, 11:36
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Stuart Hall convicted

The age of consent is 13 in some countries. It's worthy of debate, nothing to render you speechless.

She also said some things which are refreshingly non-PC:

Ms Hewson described Hall's crimes as "low-level misdemeanours" which "ordinarily... would not be prosecuted".

"What we have here is the manipulation of the British criminal justice system to produce scapegoats on demand."

"It is a grotesque spectacle," she said. "It's time to end this prurient charade, which has nothing to do with justice or the public interest."
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Old 9th May 2013, 11:40
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Canada has the age of consent at 16, but has close in age exemptions that mean a young couple who have consensual sex aged, say 13 and 14, do not commit an offence. Seems sensible to me. Stuart Hall would still get locked up
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This woman seems to have completely missed the point.

The issue with these offenders (and alleged offenders) isn't the age of consent at the time of the offences (and alleged offences) at all, it's the apparent fact that they committed these acts without the consent of their victims.

It doesn't matter what age they were, if they didn't consent then it's assault or rape.
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Probably ugly and never had a sasauge in her purse, but I digress.
She's a boy!!!!!

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She also said some things which are refreshingly non-PC:

Ms Hewson described Hall's crimes as "low-level misdemeanours" which "ordinarily... would not be prosecuted".

"What we have here is the manipulation of the British criminal justice system to produce scapegoats on demand."

"It is a grotesque spectacle," she said. "It's time to end this prurient charade, which has nothing to do with justice or the public interest."
I suspect that your opinion on these quotes would not be regarded as "refreshingly non-PC" by the majority of posters on JB, especially parents, more likely "sickening".
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You hear in so many places that children grow up so much quicker now so maybe she has point. The Canadian viewpoint seems pretty humane.

I'm not defending non-consensual sex. For that, sex or age of the person raped is irrelevant, it should remain a crime, the penalties being made even harsher.

It's not the first time that she's been involved in controversial issues.
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She's just another media slut looking for attention and fame before she is completely forgotten about.

Maybe she'll finally get a root out of it.
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Old 9th May 2013, 12:33
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Yeah, because that's what all women really need, eh, cattletruck?

You seem to have missed the irony that it's attitudes like yours which lead to assault
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I'm sure it's all about her and her only, but she is too precious for me to even give a fig anyway, and with that kind of Midas touch it looks like everyone is getting as far away as possible. Assault is just the wrong word here.
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Old 9th May 2013, 13:27
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good of her

she has set a stake in the ground far apart from the other side

Now at least in JB we can reason where the goal line can be practically achieved.

Meanwhile justice would demand that unless all old men have the same equal opportunity, that leveling the playing field by making examples of some ought to continue.

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Words fail me. Sometimes intelligent people have no common sense and this is one of those occasions. I wonder if she will be sacked for bringing her firm into disrepute?
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Old 9th May 2013, 13:45
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It is a difficult and contentious area. We all physically mature (or matured) at different ages and clearly the law has to strike a fine balance although I would argue that anybody who is 13 (no matter what the state of their physical maturity) is still a child and should be protected by the law.

Nonetheless I see no reason for her to be sacked for opening up a difficult debate at a time of national hysteria.

As for the comments about this young lady's appearance what the hell as that got to do with the validity or otherwise of her points of view?

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Old 9th May 2013, 13:56
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Nothing at all Caco, which is why I said I was digressing.....
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