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Things you couldn't live without that Mum never had

Old 29th Nov 2016, 20:20
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Amidst the chaos of my last years I finally got around to reloading Ancestry and having another look for Matthew Rathborne. I got a shock.

The Rivetess had noticed my mum arrived a bit sharpish after the wedding, but now I find an ambiguous statement in one report:
He then had one daughter from another relationship.

EDIT BY GRANDSON (me)
I would love to know what that means!! It's a fact he married my grandmother, Eleanora, c 6 M before my mother was born. She was raised by another of Lizzy Bennett's children, Beartrix Bennett, and rarely saw her father. She always wondered why but never would anyone reveal just what was going on. ------------- He was showing as married at a young age but was living in a UK boarding house with several other folk of different names. I wonder if he left a wife behind in Dublin. Matthew it seems was very successful, becoming the CEO of the Middleton Electric Traction Co until retiring in 1905. I have his retirement Tantulus inscribed with the date. I think he went on to be a manager with part of the BET conglomerate. It's very lightly he hopped on one of his new trams and met Eleanora in her parent's pub in Denton.

I was not as taken-aback as I might have been. I'd given a lot of thought to what might have happened. There are a lot of intriguing scenarios. However, in those days things that are ordinary now were just not talked about. I guess the only way I'd know if Matthew was my grandfather would be by a DNA test - Ancestry offer that at a reasonable price.

While I can see a fault in a machine at 30 yards, I find the written word very trying to analyse, while the Rivetess can spot a mistake on my screen as she passes at Mach 1. Bloody annoying. I've tried to pique her interest but she finds the chaos I live in disrupts her meditative calm and she is loath to swap the pristine environ of her flat for my pile of technology that alters little between the garage and the living room.

All this on one side while the paternal side is strange in a different way. My father left us during the war. My four (now three) Semi-siblings have all wondered what drove him to make the decision he did. It's taken me 70 years to really start trying to think inside the man's mind.

The odd thing is, I felt as though life was perfectly normal. Lots of kids didn't have dads after the war. The fact that mine was just . . . somewhere, didn't really make much difference.
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Old 29th Nov 2016, 21:26
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I've thought about this for a while. My parents had no electricity in the house until I was somewhere around school age - even then it was 32 volts DC. They had only a kerosene refrigerator, no radio, no running hot water. The bath was supplied with hot water from a cistern over the wood burning stove (Simpson number 3 for those who remember).

However they/we didn't have a flushing toilet until I was about 14. The previous building was a classic corrugated iron Australian dunny with a bucket under the wooden seat. Oh yes, and redback spiders too. I won't go into extra detail, but I can still remember the smell sixty years on.

No, I wouldn't like to be without a flushing toilet.

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Old 30th Nov 2016, 00:37
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Second that. Mum's brother lived in a row of terraced tied cottages just outside Kings Lynn. The Norfolk dunnies were down the bottom of the garden, with wooden planks over large bins. The bins were emptied once a month by a suction hose from a sewage lorry, known as the "Honey Wagon". This lorry was driven by a character called "Pimply Jack", on account of his severe Neurofibromatosis. After emptying the bins he would drop in at the local pub for a pint, where he always had a space around him.....normal for Norfolk.....
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 02:48
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Toilets..
Some years ago, I'd entered into an informal business arrangement with my then ex.
We'd get around to annual rural fairs, festivals, ag shows and the like, peddling our product.
These events would commonly go for some days.

Having to rely on whatever scarce local accommodation was available was not working too well - particularly when you're working 16-hour days.
(Think, sometimes, temporary 'tent-cities' set up in fields in adverse weather conditions and having to queue for twenty minutes to access the ablutions facilities.)

I proposed that I buy, at my expense, a motorhome, which, of course included an on-board hot shower and externally-loaded cassette toilet.
"I'm not having that!", she declared, "Your sh1t stinks!"
End of that collaboration.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 07:27
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What a small world it is Mr Rivets.
A friend of mine used to work in the Bowling Green in Denton
when she was a student at Manchester University. Must have
been around 1974 to 1977.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 08:25
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Aren't you folks forgetting about the other essential hardware that goes with every toilet?



I am astounded at the amount of people that don't know what it is or don't know how to use it.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 09:11
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They sit on it the wrong way and it squirts all over their shirts.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 09:28
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When I was a sprog, dreaming of how to run an engine on water, my Mum had....Nothing. No further comment necessary.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 10:11
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They sit on it the wrong way and it squirts all over their shirts.
I knew a girl like that. (Once upon a time)
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 10:36
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I proposed that I buy, at my expense, a motorhome, which, of course included an on-board hot shower and externally-loaded cassette toilet.
"I'm not having that!", she declared, "Your sh1t stinks!"
End of that collaboration.
Stanwell, that was soooooo funny. The Rievetess necessitated the setting of my alarm this morning just so she could pop round from her flat and have me pump her tyres. (by hand) She then informed me I was letting air out while testing. 'Can't you hear that?!' My beautiful 50 year old gauge has to be held dead straight and I've always relied on my hearing. Won't part with it though.

This deafness thing is going to catch me out before long. Cochlea Hydrops. Only I could get something like that. Still, it's okay some days so I'm hoping it'll get better.

handsfree. Isn't that incredible? I have a book containing postcards, most with stamps and sent to that address. An actor chappy came round to look at the famous actors on the cards. It was while I was showing them to him that I noticed just one not only had the number of Manchester Road but also the name of the Pub. In a moment I was looking at it on G-Earth. I now find they ran a hotel in Hollywell I think it was. I know nothing about Mr Bennett and Ancestry takes quite a lot of learning.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 10:55
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I can't live without my tools. My mother never had any. They belonged to my dad.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 12:40
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We have lots of things that Mother never had - hot and cold running water, bathroom and indoor loo, steam iron, fridge, freezer, central heating, motor car to name a few - but I could manage to live without all of them except the car and the internet.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 19:31
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Mother never had - hot and cold running water, bathroom and indoor loo
And hurricanes hardly ever happened in Hertfordshire.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 22:31
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Any sort of telephone.

My parents didn't instal their first telephone until I'd left home at age 21 - thinks ?? maybe didn't they want me to have access to a 'phone ?

My Mother certainly didn't wander around with a cellphone permanently welded to her left paw.
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Old 30th Nov 2016, 23:03
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Our first telephone was in 1955 - a shared party line (which meant that your neighbour might be using it when you wanted to make a call).
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Old 1st Dec 2016, 00:17
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I criiiiiiiiiinge when I think how I got a private line. I'm so embarrassed that I don't think I can tell the story. Oh, okay, I will.

I bought a house from my pal in 1970. The lady of the house had often got cross about having to share the line with the genteel lady next door. Genteel she was, but submissive she wasn't, and from time to time the sparks flew.

I moved in and gave the situation some thought.

"I fly an aircraft with the same engines as a current fighter, and I need to know my conversations are secure".

"Oh, okay, I'll see to it right away".

I kid you not, the men were poking about in my grass verge that afternoon.

It just goes to prove that being full of shi11 can pay off sometimes.


I grew up in neighbouring Walton on the Naze and in our road we had an angel. She was the one we'd run to if anything went wrong and she looked after me on a few occasions my mum was poorly. Her number, Walton, 3003. Her son was on of two older boys that were a good influence on the little brat I was. Just the other day, the other one emailed to say he'd located Christopher - In the records of the deceased. 74 years old. It doesn't pay to procrastinate when looking up old friends when you're past 70.

Just remembered - this was in the Bucket.





That boating lake was the biggest shallow water pond in the UK. 24 1/4 acres. It was a tidal mere that turned the mill longer than the normal ebb and flow would have done. It was also the place of my first job. 10/6 per week, teaching sailing and the like. I'd have paid him to work there..
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Easily accessible and affordable wine. People only started drinking it here in Ireland in the 80's.....Black Tower....Blue Nun; vinegar.


But nowadays things have changed and I'll never go back dammit!
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Old 1st Dec 2016, 12:34
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And hurricanes hardly ever happened in Hertfordshire.
Hurricanes hardly ever happened in Hallifield Street, but when the North wind blew down Norton Road, it was always my turn to warm the toilet seat.

Mum passed away in 1958 before we became prosperous and moved into the upper working class. She would not have been impressed.
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Old 1st Dec 2016, 20:34
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Amidst the chaos of my last years I finally got around to reloading Ancestry and having another look for Matthew Rathborne. I got a shock.

The Rivetess had noticed my mum arrived a bit sharpish after the wedding, but now I find an ambiguous statement in one report:
Having done lots of family tree stuff over last couple of years I can understand........................ complete and total frustration most of the time and then a Gem appears from nowhere.

I find Ancestry and Findmypast both excellent sources as sometimes the data is different.
Also frustrating when spelling gets changed or written incorrectly.
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Old 1st Dec 2016, 22:32
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Since I outed myself years ago cos of my book, I'll mention that the Benham line was, not that long ago, William Youngs Banham. I suppose Youngs is a given name but I'm not sure.

Well before Cromwell, just about everybody was called Thomas. Well, apart from those that were called William . . . or Walter, like Thomas' dad. In my line, there was William John. Then another, and yet another. I called to the Rivetess. 'Hey, there's one here that's not the same'.

She yawned but gave the smallest of grunts that could have meant she was listening.

'John William'!

I waited three hours for a reaction but gave up and went back to the search. William John. Okay, back to normal.
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