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Old 27th Sep 2015, 12:16
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via Hempy:
Who are you going to vote for next election Bingi? Libs (the 'bankers mates' (like things have changed ))? ALP? Greens?
Looks like your are disenfranchised (aka on your own planet) old chap. A 'minority group'. Oops. Let's hope we don't start treating hard line right-wingers like we do Muslims, you might need asylum...Hope they let you in..
Hmmm... who to vote for ?

This song makes more sense then the Greens: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8nJ30dodvdc ...so pass..

If Labor could escape from the Global Warming farce they would have the election in the bag. Bad union 'connections' would likely be overlooked (keep in mind the money being paid to the union bad boys and girls stays in Oz. i.e., it dont go to turnbulls mates at Goldman Sachs)
The problem they got is their 'green' alliance and the union super 'investments' in global warming related infrastructure... and the abc would suffer group hysteria... and..... fergetaboutit..

The Nats. Many good people, though, just like howard with the gun prohibition, turnbull is going to cuckold them. Who wants to vote for a bunch of cuckolds. ...If they can escape before its to late, we'll see...

Libs. Plenty of good people, though, afflicted with corruption at the top. Only option there is keep working to expose and remove the corruption. The evidence is stacking up every day, so...

And, there might be some more independents along, so, I'll worry about my vote on the day..







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Old 27th Sep 2015, 12:19
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From Tim Blair

Liberal Party strategist Mark Textor believes “the loss of disgruntled conservatives will be outweighed by the appeal of a more moderate party to swinging voters”:

“The qualitative evidence is they don’t matter,” Mr Textor said. “The sum of a more centrist approach outweighs any alleged marginal loss of so-called base voters.”
Looking at the many very unhappy comments by disaffected ex-Liberals on Tim Blair's site, you'd have to wonder if Mark Textor might not have got his figures slightly wrong. The vast majority of voters who wanted Turnbull to be Liberal leader will always vote Labor or Greens.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 13:17
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Turnbull is the most 'centrist' leader the country has had in years. I predict a landslide victory in the next election. Australians in general are sick to death of extremist politics, far left or far right. Turnbull might make you hard-liners cringe, but I'll be voting Libs next time round.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 13:28
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Hempy, you just made me choke on my Shiraz.
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Old 27th Sep 2015, 14:22
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Watch out for the reflux in bed tonight, it's a killer. Suggest some Gaviscon before sleeping
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 03:07
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We had a hard-Right political party? When? I must have blinked and missed it.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:07
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I'm not surprised, that's about as long as Abbott lasted....

The far right has historically favoured an elitist society based on belief of the legitimacy of the rule of a supposed superior minority over the inferior masses. Far-right politics usually involves anti-immigration and anti-integration stances towards groups that are deemed inferior and undesirable. Concerning the socio-cultural dimension (nationality, culture and migration), the far-right position is the view that certain ethnic, racial or religious groups should stay separate, and that the interests of one’s own group should be prioritised.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:12
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Ah, the real Hempy is back.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:17
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Yeah I know. Blame my grandfather. He taught me that fascists were bad..
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:48
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The far right has historically favoured an elitist society based on belief of the legitimacy of the rule of a supposed superior minority over the inferior masses
= "The far Left has historically favoured an elitist society based on belief of the legitimacy of the rule of a supposed superior minority over the inferior masses."
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 08:56
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RJM, as per my previous offering...

Australians in general are sick to death of extremist politics, far left or far right.
It seems some of you are starting to squirm. If the hat fits...
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:16
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I agree, Hempy. Like most people, I suspect, I've never liked extreme political opinions. And like most people too, I consider I'm somewhat moderate and reasonable.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:24
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Hempy, the failing in your apparently even-handed comment is what constitutes 'centrist' in today's political landscape.

To many if not most here, 'centrist' in ABCspeak is on a par with the ABC's self-serving definition of 'unbiased' - far, far to the Left of a true centre.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:29
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I agree with Hempy that Malcolm is pretty centrist.

Sarah Hanson-Young and Cory Bernardi are the bookstops at each end of the spectrum, it's pretty hard to argue that Malcolm is anything like either of them.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:33
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I agree with Hempy that Malcolm is pretty centrist.
Heh. And right at the centre, is Malcolm.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 09:51
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Originally Posted by RJM
And right at the centre, is Malcolm
Precisely. Which is why he'll get my vote. He's savvy enough to read the electorate and give the people what they actually want, as opposed to the die-hards (read 'outsiders' or 'malcontents') on either side of the political spectrum who think they are the 'smartest men in the room'. Australia is (thank goodness) still a democracy. I understand there are more than a few posters on here who wish it wasn't so, but tough titties.

Turnbull in a landslide. Call an election now.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 10:38
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Hempy, the words that come to mind every time I see Turnbull are "You can fool some of the people some of the time... (etc)."

I believe the man to be an out and out fraud - and I can't tell you how much I hope and pray that time proves me to be wrong.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 12:31
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Have always thought that Abbott was a man of steel and concrete whereas Turnbull is just a malleable lump of smiling putty, a treacherous smile at that, it is no wonder that the ALP like him so much: The link is good reading.


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Old 28th Sep 2015, 13:33
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Unlike some in the media, I am happy to reserve judgement on Turnbull as PM until he's actually had an opportunity to do something that is not an Abbott flow-on.

My gut feel at present is that he's another Rudd. But time will tell.
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Old 28th Sep 2015, 15:28
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The link is good reading.
Para,

If you reckon Bolt's drivel is 'good reading', I'd hate to see what you regard as 'bad reading'. To each his own of course but I've not read such nonsense from someone so delusional as his efforts today. I find it hard to believe it was published unless it was done for satirical purposes. The Chasers would have been proud of this effort.
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