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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 28th Aug 2015, 05:25
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Operation cancelled.
Indeed it has. Another well thought out Captains call he's been reprimanded over no doubt.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 06:16
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All a storm in a tea cup. The few protesters at Flinders look as though they have come directly from the campus. People most at risk from being caught in random checks are Europeans who have overstayed. No one was just going to get stopped at random anyway, if the police 'lifted' someone for an offence then they were likely to be questioned by Border Protection as well.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 06:51
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Good old rent a crowd showed up. The perpetually outraged.

And talking of idiots who are perpetually outraged, what the hell has SHY spent a million bucks of our money on? It is nothing short of incredible.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 07:11
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Even the most pro-Abbott posters here would have to accept that he and his 'team' (I use the word advisedly) have a tin ear in gauging the public reaction to many of their brainfarts.

This was a free kick right in front of the goal posts for the anti-Abbott side. How could whoever came up with this idea not see that?
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 07:54
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Sadly, I have to agree MTOW.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 08:20
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"Forgive me, Father - for I have sinned.."
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 09:08
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Lots of talk in the media,here in UK,about continued immigration into Britain including an estimation of there being 1.1 million illegals in UK.Here's an idea,perhaps the law/border protection could start doing their job.Then again if they did so....as the vast majority of Brits want them to.....then that would mean,according to our mates from Sussex St.that the Nazi party was running the country.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 11:32
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Loved the lefty faux outrage in Melbourne today. It's hardly a state secret that the former Immigration Department used to run stings to try and catch visa overstayers or people working illegally. I recall even seeing an episode of Border Security where they ran a multi agency operation at Sydney airport targeting taxi drivers, a few of which were returned to sender on the next flight.

Storm in a teacup really. Lefty's really don't need any excuse to leave the Centrelink queue and pick up a placard.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 11:42
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where they ran a multi agency operation at Sydney airport targeting taxi drivers, a few of which were returned to sender on the next flight.
They also ran one in Brisbane that led to a shortage of taxis for the rush hour. Airport was Not Happy .
Immigration have always conducted visa raids; that's their job. However, they've never wandered around the streets randomly checking credentials, particularly not in blue overalls and jackboots. Whether this was actually the operation or just how it was touted is irreleveant; that's what the government said would be happening. They saw this as a vote winner. Tin ear is a massive understatement.

As the former wearer of Commonwealth blue overalls (and jackboots, actually I still have two pairs of APS jackboots, they're great for bushwalking ), I found this announcement very disturbing, and I'm not surprised people gathered to protest. If I were in Melbourne I would have been there with them; this is not the role of the border agencies. They are not police, they do not have police powers and nor should they. I'm glad that the government have stepped back from this, for whatever reason.
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The border agencies perform a very important function that is supposed to be above politics. They are not the government's PR tool to be deployed on a whim, even more so when said government is seeking to stiff them on pay and conditions. People within (and formerly within ) these agencies had dark suspicions that the Big Name Change was more about politics than border protection, and this recent aborted announcement only adds weight to those suspicions. Of course the people still in the system cannot comment, for fear of workplace retribution.
That's democracy at work.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 12:41
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Anyone who saw the Flinders street crowd would have to wonder what exactly they were protesting, from what I saw. How do placards mentioning "racism" and "Muslims" have any relevance? Made themselves look decidedly stupid. Fully agree with the scrapping, the proposal was decidedly stupid as well.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 13:04
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However, they've never wandered around the streets randomly checking credentials, particularly not in blue overalls and jackboots.
Nor was this the intention Worrals, only people picked up for other offences might have been checked for their visa status.

Doesn't it frighten you a lot more Worrals just how quickly the outraged minority can organise themselves to a pointless protest?
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 13:20
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The adoption of the US term 'individuals' when referring to 'people' by the Border Farce is very annoying.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 13:31
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The constantly outraged are always looking for a place to be outraged.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 14:21
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That made we laugh when the righties talk about having a place to be constantly outraged!!
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 14:28
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Ethel, that place is called the 'War in Australia' thread on PRuNe....
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 14:40
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Bill Shorten was all for the recently cancelled crackdown until he saw the rent a mob and realised he might lose his power base.Hypocrisy rules in the Labour Party....see Gillards support for SSM now it's Abbotts call and not hers.
Worrals....the Plods in Victoria wear dark blue uniforms,they are not indicative of "Nazi" tendencies,unless of course you would like to include members of the RAAF who are also dressed similarly.I'd expect some on here to think like that but not your good self.
Where I worked at Tullamarine I had a good view of the taxi holding area,up to 400 taxis at a time early mornings sometimes which would often be reduced to a couple of dozen when the "drivers" found out there were visa checks being carried out".....meanwhile the " Border Force" in Britain seems to have mislaid 1.1 million illegals,S.O.P. It would seem these days.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 14:53
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And we have 50000 of them wandering around. No one really knows who they are. I just hope one of them is not crazy enough to try an a train attack, like in France.

If they do, I fear what might happen. And i will suggest, just my opinion only, that if it does happen, Hempy and my sister, should retire to their tent and weave their sandals and boil their lentils, because I think it may get very, very ugly.
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 16:13
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Oh, thank you so much for your wise counsel there, SOPS.

Should I get my tin helmet out, check my ammo and fortify the bunker?
I just checked my flak-jacket.. The moths have eaten holes in it. I'll have to get another one.
Do you expect there to be a rush for those on the disposals stores soon?
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 18:09
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Old 28th Aug 2015, 20:14
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Hypocrisy rules in the Labor party...
It does, but it's the result of a preceding condition - the desire for power at any cost, whatever it takes.

The ultimate prize - a seat in Parliament, is so attractive in terms of money and influence that a charge of hypocrisy is a small cross to bear. A few years in federal Parliament or even an equally paid state slot can transform life for you and your family. With the large income, huge benefits and generous pension, you should never have to work again if you can swing a few terms.

Service to the public? Well, it's not the main game for a lot of them.
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