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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 3rd Mar 2015, 03:44
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Under current leglisation, company directors who break the law can be sentenced to five years gaol or fined $350,000. Union bosses who do the same can be fined a maximum of $10,200.

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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 05:05
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An observer could be forgiven for thinking Labor was still in power in Canberra.
Australian Defence Force to get its first Muslim Imam
The Australian Defence Force is set to get its first Muslim Imam as part of a push to attract more recruits from different cultural and language backgrounds.
Assistant Defence Minister Stuart Robert announced on Monday he was asking Defence to “renew efforts” on recruiting a more “culturally and linguistically diverse workforce”.
Part of this is to find an Imam – an Islamic religious leader – to serve on the ADF’s religious advisory committee, which provides advice to the force on policies to meet its personnel’s spiritual needs.
“I have asked my department to move as quickly as possible to identify a part-time Islamic Imam to join the ADF’s religious advisory committee to ensure those 96 ADF members of an Islamic faith have appropriate representation,” Mr Robert said in a speech to Parliament.
The part-time Imam will join one Jewish and five Christian religious leaders who make up the committee. He will serve in a policy advisory role – a first for the ADF – but will not provide pastoral care as do Christian Chaplains in the force.
Mr Robert said progress on cultural diversity within the ADF needed to happen more quickly.
“It is clear the growth of a culturally and linguistically diverse workforce, that represents the changing face of modern Australia, is moving too slowly,” Mr Robert said. “This is going to change.”
He said there would also be a “dedicated recruitment strategy” to target sections of the community from which soldiers, sailors and airmen and women are not typically drawn.
Mr Robert stressed this was not about appearances or “social engineering” but rather was vital to making the ADF a better fighting force.
“This strategy … is born out of the stark reality that combat power will be enhanced,” he said.
It would help Defence engage with neighbours in the Asia-Pacific region as well as overseas partners such as the United Nations and NATO, and also in operations such as peacekeeping and disaster relief, he said.
“As modern military operations evolve, there will be a growing requirement for greater interaction with, and understanding of, different cultures.”
A similar previous example was the ADF’s “female engagement teams” deployed in Afghanistan, where its members could talk to local women about how to improve their lives, which was a critical part of that mission, he said.
Defence had previously successfully used personnel who spoke Ukrainian, Chinese and Japanese in recent operations and exercises.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 06:41
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Originally Posted by Kodachrome View Post
... On the plus side, either by spill or election, his woeful PMship will be where it belongs, resigned to history (although 70 years later than where it truly belongs).
I think you should have used 'consigned'

"Resigned" adjective: 1. submissive or acquiescent.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 06:43
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... Why don't we hear more sound bites from the Coalition like that every day?

Not that the ABC would put them to air.
There's your answer
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 07:52
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It might be fashionable to 'bash' all government employees but the criticism is usually quite unwarranted.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 09:49
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It might be fashionable to 'bash' all government employees but the criticism is usually quite unwarranted.
I'll edit that for you John.

It might be fashionable to 'bash' all government employees, Kiwi's, Frogs, Poms, Yanks, Jews, etc..... but the criticism is usually quite unwarranted.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 10:11
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That might be the case in NZ, John but, after 25 years in the public sector and 17 years in the private sector, I can't say that I agree with you when it comes to Australia.

One of my favourite book titles is "Why A Grade Students work for C Grade Students (and B Grade Students Join the Public Service)".
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 10:18
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He said that it was staggering how often he saw defendants who were obviously as guilty as sin walk free because the DPP lawyers were simply out of their depth against the highly priced silks defending the crims, who would often get off either on a technicality or - far more often - because the DPP lawyers screwed up.
Given the choice and assuming you have the skillset, would you work for the DPP or be a high priced silk? The same applies to the ATO and other federal/ state enforcement agencies. When the private sector offers far better money for competency (and it does), competent professionals will go private. They are also spared all the government BS that goes along with working for the public service, and when you add that to the higher renumeration public service 'benefits' (such as job security (until recently, anyway) and good super) start looking less beneficent.

I don't know what the solution is. The Crown needs to employ good, competent people, otherwise government becomes a farce (oh wait, that already happened ). To get good, competent people they need to offer commensurate money or better conditions and a good working environment. Offering the money is expensive, and whether the conditions are better is highly debatable. IME (former APS, now employed by a private company) conditions is a far bigger issue for the APS than pay. In many departments, it's a horrible place to work . I would have happily stayed there on less money for the security and conditions, but the work climate was just too awful, so I jumped at a private offer and have been reasonably happy ever since. I have heard very similar stories from people employed (and formerly employed) in the state DPP and health departments, so it's not limited to the federal sphere.

There are many decent, motivated hardworking people in the public service, but they're drowned out by the deadsts and self-serving managers who would sell their first-born for a promotion. Whenever the Cuts come it's the decent people who go to the wall or take voluntary redundancies and exit stage left to the private sector (or retire ), while the deadsts and self promoters survive yet another government, and continue generating inefficiency and bleeding the public purse for no return.

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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 10:50
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He said there would also be a “dedicated recruitment strategy” to target sections of the community from which soldiers, sailors and airmen and women are not typically drawn.
No need to wait for a fifth column to appear, much easier to grow your own!
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 11:03
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Maybe because the sections of the community from which ADF personnel are traditionally drawn (i.e. the fit, willing and competent) are not joining? Maybe those people are getting better offers from the private sector wrt pay, locations and conditions and by comparison the ADF just isn't attractive?

His solution; make it easier to join the ADF . IMO a better solution would be to make joining the ADF more attractive. Then the sections of the community from which personnel would traditionally join would keep doing so, instead of weighing it up against more attractive private sector options and saying Yeah Nah, I'll stick with civvy street and not spend the next 25 years of my life getting stuffed around by Defence and its legendary petty politics.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 13:17
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Ah but then you get the likes of Jaquie Lambie joining!
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 13:53
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Hang on...we are giving our enemy guns?
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 20:22
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Paul Murray showed a clip of Tony Abbott utterly demolishing Bill Shorten in question time in Parliament with his answer to what Shorten thought was a killer question over the Libs selection of an exclusive 'men only' club as the venue for the Liberal Party conference in Brisbane.

Not a mention of it anywhere else. Can only imagine the coverage had it been Shorten skewering Abbott.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 21:01
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Abbott has always been great in question time. He started out of course as the great attack dog in the Howard government. In parliament there is never a stutter, a pause an "um" or "ah". Yet when you take him out of that environment his speech becomes very tough on the ears. I think it may have something to do with the fact that in question time you are seeing him speaking as unfiltered as a politician can be and when at a press conference he's the complete opposite.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 21:16
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I saw TA answer Shorten's question too. Can't find a link to the scene on Paul Murray's site. Shorten's too thick to fully appreciate how soundly he was shot down, but I'll bet his handlers and Labor backbenchers were squirming in their seats and wondering how the hell they can be rid of the fool without treading on the ridiculous but (for Kevin Rudd) self-serving "Rudd's Reform" rule that protects Labor leaders now.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 21:21
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Found the clip on the Bolt site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9I32hpoQeo

Worth a listen.
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 21:28
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The media rarely reports on QT as it clashes with their narrative of an incompetent government overshadowed by a brilliant opposition.

Hockey, last week, was hit with an Opposition question linking falling revenues with the government's decision to axe thousands of ATO jobs.
He appeared to have some fun pointing out that the job shedding was a labor initiative prior to the last election, which the libs had allowed to continue.
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 10:25
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Paul Murray showed a clip of Tony Abbott utterly demolishing Bill Shorten in question time in Parliament with his answer to what Shorten thought was a killer question over the Libs selection of an exclusive 'men only' club as the venue for the Liberal Party conference in Brisbane.
Not a mention of it anywhere else.
It's made the state press, both Fairfax and Murdoch.
I'd hardly call it a national issue , though it's generated some local amusement.

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Old 6th Mar 2015, 21:37
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I cannot believe the way the fate of two drug dealers is dominating the news for days on end.

I suppose the pollies on both sides of Parliament aren't complaining - it gives them an excuse to be in front of the cameras without having to answer any hard questions about policy or the economy that they'll have to answer for some time in the future.

I thought the candlelight vigil was a bit OTT.
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Old 6th Mar 2015, 22:52
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It's part of a reciprocal agreement Fubaar. Abbott and the new guy up there agreed to maximum publicity as a deterrent for both our returning the boats policy and their drugs policies. No f*ckwit can claim ignorance for attempting to either come here illegally or for smuggling drugs there.
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