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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:13
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Piers Ackerman's latest article on his blog is worth reading.
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:14
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But they can't afford to coast now. He could surprise us all and do a Howard.
As PM, Howard started well and finished badly. So far Abbott has started badly, and time will tell whether he will finish well. Personally I doubt it.
Howard came relatively late to the PM-ship after a long political career. This is not the case with Abbott; unlike Howard, prior to winning Coalition leadership he was generally unremarkable.
PS. One of the early mistakes the Libs made was not going hard enough on the mess that labor left.
Actually I think this was one of the Queensland LNP's failings. It was like a parrot that was trotted out every news break; 'Labor's legacy/Labor's legacy/Labor's legacy '. Labor's legacy caused cancer and obesity. Whatever! . Give the man a peanut so he'll STFU. I reckon that for at least eighteen months we heard absolutely nothing about what the LNP was either doing or was going to do, and everything about what Labor hadn't done. According to Newman they've caused everything from the common cold to the GFC. FWIW we realised what Labor had and hadn't done, and that's why we didn't vote for 'em. After that, we were hoping to read about what the Libs were doing.

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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:30
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News for our mate Tony.
If you have to explain to people that you are a good captain, then you probably ain't one.
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 12:25
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If the yanks are taking the piss gawd 'elp us, considering..
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 08:48
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From the Tim Blair blog.

The ABC’s Vote Compass has it at 52-35 with Campbell just holding on. Not so sure on the latter, but I don’t think the overall election will be terribly close.

Astonishing what short memories people have these days.

An interesting tidbit (from the link) about people needing ID is that one of seats voters have been turned away most from is Ashgrove, Campbell’s seat. Well, fancy that.
And on the Courier Mail site, a headline saying that exit polls show a shock Labor victory.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 09:12
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The ABC now saying LNP in severe trouble.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 09:21
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The run's on. Even Clayfield (Tim Nicholls' seat, Brisbane's Toorak/Vaucluse equivalent) has a 10%+ swing against the LNP.
Sky News (Brandis, Richo and friends) are saying Newman's gone. Brandis is looking very sweaty and starting to fight with Richo .

One of the complications with Queensland elections is that preferences are optional. It makes it difficult to call Green/PUP/KAT votes early in the night, because those voters aren't obliged to preference. For example, unlike federal elections you can't just automatically say Green + Labor = Labor or LNP + PUP + LNP. It depends on how many voters have chosen to preference.

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Old 31st Jan 2015, 09:38
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Newman appears to have lost his seat.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 09:55
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From Sky, state wide;
LNP 39.4%
ALP 39.4%
GRN 8.8%
IND whatever's left .

Sure seats (Sky's assumption, not declared as such):
LNP 25
ALP 34
IND 5

There are 89 seats in the House.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:11
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Mal Brough urged to challenge Tony Abbott for leadership

The plot thickens
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:19
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Ah well, perhaps Queensland, and quite possibly Australia as a whole need another period of Labor profligacy and incompetence to really bring the message home that you cannot spend more than you earn.

Pity it took Liberal/National incompetence (and arrogance) to bring such a situation about though.

And how much further damage will be done as a result?
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:27
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Pity it took Liberal/National incompetence (and arrogance)
And that's what's happened. If they hadn't been so awful they would have won this term easily. Despite Brisbane being Labor, Queensland has usually been overall conservative over the past fifty years. They effed up, big time. Let that be a lesson to the federal government...

From Sky; Newman has just conceded Ashgrove via a phone call to Jones. George Brandis looks like he needs a stiff drink.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:28
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Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot View Post
Ah well, perhaps Queensland, and quite possibly Australia as a whole need another period of Labor profligacy and incompetence to really bring the message home that you cannot spend more than you earn.

Pity it took Liberal/National incompetence (and arrogance) to bring such a situation about though.:
Agreed. A very sad state of affairs politically indeed when you could even conceive of a government losing an election after one term, with a 71-seat margin

Has Labor improved significantly since they were bulldozed at the last election? Probably not, and yet here we are. Take your pick from a bowl of rotten fruit.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:30
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Has Labor improved significantly since they were bulldozed at the last election? Probably not, and yet here we are. Take your pick from a bowl of rotten fruit.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:31
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I hate to say this, it maybe a state election, but this result is going to have huge ramifications for Tony Abbott.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:36
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Don't you just love the way the people speak in a democracy.

I think I would prefer Dum Dum than Brough believe it or not. Isn't Pyne good buddies with Brough. Beware the eides of March!
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:40
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Has Labor improved significantly since they were bulldozed at the last election?
Yes, IMO.
Have the LNP been incredibly disappointing?
Also yes, IMO.
but this result is going to have huge ramifications for Tony Abbott.
Feel free to drop Brandis a line, because at the moment denial is a river in Egypt, even though his two fellow on-air Libs (including Albretsen's partner whatshisname) are agreeing with you.

Whatever the final outcome, it's a simple message for the federal government and any other government from either side of politics (and a message the Qld ALP under Blight copped loudly and clearly from the electorate);
Don't be a bunch of liars, and don't be a bunch of arrogant cts.
To quote the insurance loving Meerkats, Seemples.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:41
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but this result is going to have huge ramifications for Tony Abbott.
Yes; It just might make the (expletive deleted) wake up, stop being such a stupid (further expletive deleted) and actually govern like a Prime Minister who was elected with a fairly large majority; ie actually keep a few promises he made!

Pinky the pilot is now going to retire to bed. He has had quite enough to drink tonight!! BTW< Worrals, how are ya?
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:44
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To quote the insurance loving Meerkats, Seemples.
But please dont comparethem.com
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 10:55
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ABC is calling it for Labor, this is simply incredible.
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