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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 18th Jan 2015, 15:59
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Well said, Andu.

Meanwhile, Sarah Hanson-Young is whipping up a storm on her Twitter account about reported unrest on Manus Island. She is practically spitting as she goes in to bat for the poor, poor 'victims' of 'Abbott's cruel and mean-spirited immigration policy'.

The targets of her abuse and accusations are Tony Abbott (of course), and Scott Morrison.

She's a different Sarah than the one who famously said of the deaths of 1200 poor, poor 'victims' of the immigration policy of the Labor/Greens alliance not so long ago: "Accidents happen, tragedies happen".

She is beneath contempt, a hypocrite and opportunist of the lowest order.

Have a look at her Twitter account. It's pretty strong stuff.

Then, after opposing almost every reasonable effort of the LNP to reduce the deficit for which her party was partly responsible, she demands that the "multinational mining companies" (in other words, Satan himself) not be allowed the diesel fuel excise rebate. She suggests using the money saved to "increase the dole to get more people back to work". In other words, no impact on the debt, quite apart from the questionable reallocation of the money. Oh, and decrease the competitiveness of Australian mines in the middle of a commodities slump. That's the sort of critical thinking SHY is famous for.

What an embarrassment and a threat to good government this woman is.
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Old 18th Jan 2015, 20:12
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Given their big push for jobs jobs jobs (and given what happened to the last federal Labor government, which was seen as too Green by many mainstream Labor voters, particularly in Queensland
So what your saying it should all go ahead regardless of who gets in?

It will be interesting to see if they get in will they change the financial calculus of the project. We just had the Indian PM here last year saying how benificial they will be.

Given that China has plateaued, India once it gets wound up may end up giving another boom like the last. The whole coal greenhouse thing should be a moot point, as if we don't give it to them someone else will.

The building of the rail I believe is supposed to be for a muti-user system, unlike our Iron ore majors over here, hence has the potential to benefit other users.
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Old 18th Jan 2015, 22:49
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Just a thought but perhaps Ethel is really Shortone, or at least someone who works for him. I have to admit he/she/Bill is really good at the hypocrisy bit. There he, Bill, was, last night on T.V. "news",the arch back stabber of the previous Labour government,( remember Gillard and Rudd, Ethel ?), waffling on about problems in the ranks of the present Liberal government. And of course our "media" lets him get away with it no surprise there then.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 03:24
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How about Rintoul and Hanson-Young get out of their comfy air conditioned offices and go off to work for the Red Cross with people fleeing from IS for a few years to learn the difference between an opportunistic asylum seeker and a refugee. Then they might have some credibility.

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Old 19th Jan 2015, 06:25
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Rh200, I'm not anti coal mining per se. Never have been. As long as the protocols are complied with wrt safety, environment and local employment I don't have issues with it.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 08:12
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Meanwhile in Victoria it is being reported that a proposed Helipad at a Melbourne hospital is to be denied funding by the incoming Labour Govt. despite comments by Mr. Andrews, prior to the last state election, saying that it should be a priority. No surprises there then.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 09:18
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Why is it that I strongly suspect that if I did a search on Snopes, I'd find that this labelled as 'False' and 'an urban myth'?

Muslim parents demanded the abolition of pork in all the school canteens of a Montreal suburb. The mayor of the Montreal suburb of Dorval has refused, and the town clerk sent a note to all parents to explain why…

“Muslims must understand that they have to adapt to Canada and Quebec, its customs, its traditions, its way of life, because that’s where they chose to immigrate.

“They must understand that they have to integrate and learn to live in Quebec.

“They must understand that it is for them to change their lifestyle, not the Canadians who so generously welcomed them.

“They must understand that Canadians are neither racist nor xenophobic, they accepted many immigrants before Muslims
(whereas the reverse is not true, in that Muslim states do not accept non-Muslim immigrants).

“That no more than other nations, Canadians are not willing to give up their identity, their culture.

“And if Canada is a land of welcome, it’s not the Mayor of Dorval who welcomes foreigners, but the Canadian-Quebecois people as a whole.

“Finally, they must understand that in Canada (Quebec) with its Judeo-Christian roots, Christmas trees, churches and religious festivals, religion must remain in the private domain. The municipality of Dorval was right to refuse any concessions to Islam and Sharia.

“For Muslims who disagree with secularism and do not feel comfortable in Canada, there are 57 beautiful Muslim countries in the world, most of them under-populated and ready to receive them with open halal arms in accordance with Shariah.

“If you left your country for Canada, and not for other Muslim countries, it is because you have considered that life is better in Canada than elsewhere.
“Ask yourself the question, just once, “Why is it better here in Canada than where you come from?”

“A canteen with pork is part of the answer
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I don't think there's a politician at any level of government anywhere in the West with the gonads to release a statement like that.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 09:35
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Originally Posted by MTOW View Post
Why is it that I strongly suspect that if I did a search on Snopes, I'd find that this labelled as 'False' and 'an urban myth'?

I don't think there's a politician at any level of government anywhere in the West with the gonads to release a statement like that.
A quick google revealed the truth...

snopes.com: Belgian Mayor Refuses to Ban Pork in School Cafeterias

The story is false, because the petition to remove pork from the canteen menu was never presented to the mayor in the first place.

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Old 19th Jan 2015, 10:49
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Just before Christmas there was some huffing and puffing up here about a Sunny Coast school that had been 'forced' to cancel its Christmas pageant after complaints from parents. The huffing deflated somewhat when it became clear that the group of complaining parents were not Muslims, but atheist 'Anglos' (for want of a better label). The local Islamic Association put out their usual statement that they do not oppose Christmas celebrations in any way, shape or form, and the attempted media sensation died a natural death.

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Old 19th Jan 2015, 11:09
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What an embarrassment and a threat to good government this woman is.
Absolutely, positively no doubt about that. But how did she manage to fall over the line and retain her seat in the senate at the last election?

Because some of the dumb shits at the South Australian National party HQ decided to play politics and put SHY ahead of the Liberal party candidate on their senate how to vote card. You would've thought they could have at least been trusted to do the right thing and rid the country once and for all from this clown.

But they couldn't even manage that. Idiots.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 13:49
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. Yup.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 14:21
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I agree wholeheartedly, the Libs should dump the Nationals, they are nothing but country hicks and a waste of space.

Oh. Hang on. How many elections have the Liberal Party won off their own bat?

Strike that. The Nationals are the best!!

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Old 19th Jan 2015, 14:53
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The Sydney hostage taker had a history of vile public vitriol......

I do hope that our enforcers go after Mr Merhi.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/2603...-in-australia/

But then again, they may be a bit busy enforcing the other laws coz I just got a ticket for doing 68 in a 60 zone.
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Old 20th Jan 2015, 10:22
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Because some of the dumb shits at the South Australian National party HQ decided to play politics and put SHY ahead of the Liberal party candidate on their senate how to vote card.
Really??? That's a bit uncool.
It would seem that factional cat fights aren't purely a Labor problem. Certainly the members of the ostensibly fused Queensland LNP (theme song; We Are Family) still very much identify as L or N (and occasionally P, though hopefully the Big P will get politically annhilated come Saturday week, at least at the state level).

Chatting with an AEC geek recently, I was surprised how many voters follow party lines wrt the federal Senate. A massive majority vote above the line (IIRC it was about 85%?). Tasmania was a notable exception, and we've seen how that's ended up.

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Old 20th Jan 2015, 12:18
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Have they found Ms Asbestosis earring yet. I am surprised that Tony Dum Dum hasn't anounced in a press conference " we are closing in and will find it within the week line "
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 00:38
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Meanwhile,Ethel, here in Victoria it looks a distinct possibility that nice Mr. Andrews will have to stump up a cool $1.5 billion for scrapping the East/West road link.
And a heap of nurses working for the RDNS are getting the chop. I'll bet they are really happy about that after giving all that time to demonstrating outside the polling booths just a few short months ago.Still they can save their T shirts for use at the next demo. can't they ?

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Old 21st Jan 2015, 02:50
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It would seem that factional cat fights aren't purely a Labor problem
Umm, since when has it been?

You have the economic business conservatives, and the social conservatives. Doesn't seem to be that bad a mix and works most of the time (sort of self modulating), but can get out of hand if let run wild.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 05:28
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Umm, since when has it been?
Many Libs (not your good self, I take it) like to say so, particularly whenever the Labor party arguing with itself makes the news.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 09:17
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Many Libs (not your good self, I take it) like to say so, particularly whenever the Labor party arguing with itself makes the news.
Where conservatives, in "theory" making decisions depending upon what our genitals want is "not" supposed to happen. We all know how that works.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 09:30
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Where conservatives, in "theory" making decisions depending upon what our genitals want is "not" supposed to happen. We all know how that works.
Next you'll be claiming that people get involved in politics pro bono publico, with no thought for personal gain.

Maybe one day. In the meantime I think it's generally as the saying goes; showbiz for ugly people who can't sing or dance.
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