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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 21st Dec 2014, 00:19
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Did anyone really believe she was going to be found guilty?
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 01:07
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Did anyone really believe she was going to be found guilty?
It perhaps would have been most unlikely, but surely there would have been enough evidence to proceed to a prosecution and let the courts decide?

Surely someone who is that gullible regarding the law had no place as lawyer, let alone Prime Minister
 
Old 21st Dec 2014, 03:10
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What amazes me is that there are still many out there who think she was a 'wunnerful' prime minister and won't hear a bad word said about her. It borders on religious devotion.

The telling comment in the Royal Commissioner's findings is that he found absolutely nothing in her past except her having held the position of prime minister that gave him any reason to have found her to be of good character. A finding like that should send anyone but someone with a skin as thick as rhino hide into self-imposed exile from public life.

There are few people I would turn my back on if I found myself face to face with them. Good manners usually wins out over convictions. Julia Gillard is one of the few where good manners would take second place to convictions. The woman has done irreparable damage to my country, and only the wilfully blind refuse to see that.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 03:33
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What amazes me is that there are still many out there who think she was a 'wunnerful' prime minister and won't hear a bad word said about her. It borders on religious devotion.
I do, compared to Rudd.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 03:56
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Worrals ... Just asking, but how many Muslims does Keysar Trad speak for ?
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 03:57
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The woman has done irreparable damage to my country, and only the wilfully blind refuse to see that.
Hear, Hear!

The time bombs which have been set within government will echo for years to come at a horrendous cost to the country.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 12:02
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I've wondered how Carmen Lawrence managed to get away with her role in the whole grubby Thiess/Wilson/AWU slush fund affair and the hundreds of thousands of dollars of WA money that found it's way into the slush fund Gillard set up. Seem to remember she has a pretty selective memory.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 14:10
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Meanwhile back in 2014 the Cabernet has been shuffled, I guess Morrison in his new role can do a bit more kiddy trade, hope he does not run out of kids.
At least the new lady on the block is an ex commercial pilot and ATC.
And we now have a happy clapper as our defence minister.
Just gets better and better. I hope you are all following Jo's best advice for the budget and spending big this Xmas.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 19:52
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The clean up of the Rudyard mess continues. Next, the benefit rorters.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 19:53
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Meanwhile back in 2014 the Cabernet has been shuffled, I guess Morrison in his new role can do a bit more kiddy trade, hope he does not run out of kids.

Cabernet????


Tell me this is another of your incredibly subtle (if usually way too subtle for me) plays on words, Ethel.

However, given some of your previous posts, why do I suspect it is not.

I have to agree with you over Kevin Andrews to Defence. It should dispel any illusions among those in uniform that they're anywhere but at the very bottom of this government's priorities tree.

I think it would be a pretty safe bet that the ABC and the commercial TV stations will go into meltdown expressing their outrage as Scott Morrison gets into reducing the rorting in welfare and disability pensions. Stand by for photographs of wheelchair-bound quadriplegics when Morrison takes DSPs from malingerers filmed digging trenches or kite surfing.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 20:56
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Larry Pickering thinks Scott Morrison will not succeed in his new role. Here's part of what he says Morrison will have to face.
The average defrauded amount was $40,000, with one person having received $416,000, and 51 individuals scamming and average of over $100,000 each.

In only one of many clever scams, Islamic families, mainly in western Sydney, are known to be legally rorting the welfare system by up to $3,000 per week under foster carers’ subsidies. It’s simple really, Muslim families swap their kids (only on paper of course).

This is how it works: The mother (and in some cases there are multiple mothers in the one family) complains to child welfare authorities that she is unable to cope with seven or eight kids and requires a foster carer. The nominated foster carer, due to cultural and early learning needs, is of course another local Muslim mother who very soon complains she now needs a foster carer for her own large number of kids. Of course another Muslim family down the road offers to care for those kids. And on and on it goes. I mean it’s not acceptable that an Australian foster carer be appointed to look after Muslim children when other Muslim mothers are volunteering.

Now, all the parents involved are either on unemployment benefits or disability pensions and receiving Government housing or housing allowances. Each mother (carer) also receives $200 per week per child, all of whom are actually close relatives.

And there’s another pot of money available for early learning difficulties, speech therapy and behavioural problems. The Islamic schools the children attend receive massive State funding plus special grants related to cultural needs.

But that’s not the totality of the scam. You see, the children never actually change families. If inspectors arrive, they can’t possibly know which kid belongs to what family, all the boys are named Mohammed, they all play together in the same street anyway, suddenly no-one in the family knows a word of English and there will be advocates screaming racial insensitivity if anyone to tries to unscramble the mess.

And anyway, it’s all completely legitimate.
What I don't understand is why, if you have too many children to cope with, is it the government's responsibility to pay you for your mistake? And when I say 'government', I really mean taxpayers and fellow citizens who had the brains and forethought to stop dropping sprogs before their numbers became unmanageable.

But with our muslim 'brothers', keeping the numbers of offspring down wouldn't fit into the Grand Plan, would it?

We're financing our own demise - and borrowing to do it.

This country would be better named 'Lemmingania'.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 22:32
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In nearly 15 months the only contribution Andrews made was free marriage Counciling (probably by a priest).
Talent plus.
Quite appropriate that Morrison is in charge of the SS.
Keep shuffling those deck chairs, the ships still going down.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 23:10
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The only positive about Andrews getting Defence is that it has become a traditional last port of call for Ministers. I think only 1 of the last 10 has gained another Cabinet post.

He's been a blight on the political landscape for way too long.

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I posted the Tely extract as an example of Muslim 'leaders' who are happy to go on the record (in this case Amin Sayed and Keysar Trad, who given their names are presumably Lebanese) denouncing Monis and his actions. Not sure where I referenced the Christian Lebs? I didn't intend to reference them, anyway.
It's the third word in the quote.
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Old 21st Dec 2014, 23:47
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I've just seen the Jacquie Lambie photo spread in the Woman's Monthly. That brings Photoshopping to a whole new level.
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 04:07
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Yes, the photo of Glambie on telly was enough. Proves you cant believe what you see.

Edit: it does seem she wants a man in her life.
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 04:13
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Edit: it does seem she wants a man in her life.
Guess there may be someone out there desperate enough!
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 04:35
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Michael Smith has come up with some interesting stats in his latest article on his website.

I've chosen to study a cohort of overseas-born Australians and their uptake of Australian Government welfare payments.

76,451 Australians or 0.35% of our population was born in Lebanon.

Of that 76,451:

11,515 are on the Disability Support Pension. 1 in 6 Lebanese-born Australians.
1,315 receive a Wife Pension
5,714 receive a Carer Payment
8,991 receive a Carer Allowance
3,852 receive a Parenting Payment

And none of that includes normal Family Tax Part A or B, Baby Bonus, Study Allowances, Newstart and the other more traditional welfare payments.
What's 'wife pension'?
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 05:18
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Its a rather shallow study and lacking in analysis.

Does his overall population total include children/students?

What of children born in Australia to Lebanese immigrant parents?

How do these ratios compare to other ethnic groups?

Can we assume from the raw figures that 60% of Lebanese immigrants are not relying on Centrelink?


Rorting welfare is not a sport confined to one ethnic group. Its probably the purest expression of multi-cultural practice in Australia.

No need to demonise one group when you can demonise them all (which is probably what Scott Morrison has in mind.)
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 05:21
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What's 'wife pension'?
An allowance for an ugly wife?
I see Amirah Droudis (the partner of the chocolate shop terrorist on bail for murder of said chocolate shop terrorist's ex-wife) has had her bail revoked and is now behind bars...where she should have been in the first place!
What I find absolutely staggering is the magistrate who heard the case at the time (Darryl Pearce) stated that 'the accused....were not a threat to the public'. I think you fcuked it, Dazza.
I'm now wondering if the fact that chocolate shop terrorist Monis and his loopy girlfriend Droudis are Muslims had any bearing on Pearces' decision, ie fearful of a possible Muslim backlash if he had done the right thing and locked the buggers up.
This case represents yet another example of how out of touch a significant majority of the judiciary are with the expectations of the community they purport to serve.
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Old 22nd Dec 2014, 05:31
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With a post like that CSD I think you may be pushing the Libel boundaries and if not careful finding all about the judicial system first hand.
however your ugly wife joke is up there with Dim Nightie's attempt at humour
Apparently Tony Dum Dum repealed the carbon tax for women and their grocery shopping. what a thoughtful chap!!
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