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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 3rd Nov 2014, 05:25
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Is that the same Christine Milne who is reported to have said "the choice is coal or death?"
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 06:02
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I was in Sydney city on Saturday night and on the very crowed train, found myself standing beside a 20-something man who was wearing a Returned from Active Service badge on his coat lapel. My first reaction was that it had not occurred to me there must be quite literally thousands of young blokes of a similar age eligible to wear that badge - (which in my addled mind, has been something you only see old farts of my age and older wearing).

But then a second, not so warm and fuzzy feeling hit me - in fact, a distressing and highly unpalatable thought. The young bloke was announcing to everyone who knew what to look for that he is a serving (or recently ex-)serviceman, making himself a prime target for his "fellow citizens" who have been instructed by people they see as their spiritual leaders to kill any fellow citizen they choose to, but in particular, fellow citizens such as him.

How sad a comment, I thought, on what our society has become for that thought to come to my mind.Thanks entirely to the social engineering that has been foisted upon us by the political leadership of both sides, who think they know what's best for us - social engineering that has been proven conclusively not to work in the nations of Western Europe - this has become an accepted fact of life.

How long before ex-servicemen are instructed not to wear the RAS badge "lest it offend some in our society"? The government has already spent $600,000 on an investigation that found that the way we celebrate ANZAC Day does indeed offend some "Australians" belonging to the religion of peace and so should be "toned down" so as to lessen that perceived offence.
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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 06:25
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I saws this article on the Piers Ackerman blog. Few - well, few males at least - would think that much of what the writer says has applied here in Australia, if to a lesser degree, ever since the Whitlam "reforms". The comment about bailing out the banks was, to me at least, particularly pertinent.

Japan is on its last legs - http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article48007.html

It is a sad story and very few people know the real reason why this once mighty economic powerhouse is sliding down the economic S-bend. Sure they quote the demographics and debt tally but seldom do they mention the causes of these twin nightmares - Femosocialism.

Japan has been ahead of the curve for the last 40 years in most matters social and technological ....although one could argue that they might be behind on the game show front - Dragging a guy’s nuts over a gravel driveway because he coughed up the wrong answer seems a lil backward. Anyhoo…

Japan suffered a catastrophic drop in real estate prices in the early 1990’s and it’s government did the most stupid thing imaginable - IT BAILED OUT INSOLVENT BANKS AND CORPORATIONS. Sound familiar ? For 2 decades the nation has been pumping its lifeblood into these corpses in a futile attempt to get the system living again. Japan’s present debt levels are way north of 200% of GDP and get worse by the day. If Mr Market had been allowed to work his magic the excess debt would have been purged by the year 2000 at the latest.

Shoulda coulda woulda.

Behind all this was another more frightening problem. At its nascent stages this problem was impossible to detect and like cancer became impossible to stop once it had spread - I am speaking of the herbivore man phenomenon -

Like most western nations Japan too experienced the joys of feminism and its ‘men suck’ mantra. Girls were give pride of place and boys were told that they were little more than animals. The education system was retooled to cater exclusively for the female mode of learning and society was restructured to support this new female primacy. Japan’s younger men have responded to this unprovoked attack on them by simply withdrawing. We aren’t talking about a poolside type withdrawal rather a hardcore no sex ‘don’t come near me’ retreat. 60% of men under 40 don’t want to marry and would rather fiddle with a garden than plough anything else.

Upshot - Japan’s birth stats are crashing. Not only are these guys not seeking mates they are also avoiding careers and other forms of commitment and this is starting to be felt across the Japanese economy.

China, Sth Korea and most of Europe is starting to see a similar trend developing and like the Japanese they have missed the cause of it completely....blaming nebulous things like ‘the economy’ and the ‘Peter Pan syndrome.’ Any serious discussion involving the real cause of this creeping disaster is quickly stymied because it treads too closely to the sacred cow of female first everything else second.

Feminism was always going to be a one-two punch to the economy and birthrates. The first punch was getting girls out of the kitchen and into the workforce and this upped productivity per capita and lowered fertility rates as women put off breeding till they had done the entire feminist merit badge list - 1. Good HSC 2. Human resources degree of some sort 3. Job 4. Stop banging ALPHA’s and marry a beta provider and pump out only two kids because time was short. 5. Divorce beta, remarry another beta...if lucky.

The second punch was guys waking up to how the system worked and adapting to it. This was/is the coup de grace to birthrates and long term economic viability for most nations in the west and throughout Asia. In short - A zero incentive society/economy stops guys working marrying and breeding.

To make matters worse most economic policy across Asian and the western alliance is predicated on keeping baby boomers comfortable by looting the productive efforts of generations X & Y.

Like a boiling frog does not know it is in danger these nations have sleep walked into an intractable problem that is or soon will be lowering their living standards. Japan was merely the canary in the coal mine.

There is nothing you can do about it except adapt to the prevailing conditions and inform others about the dynamic at work.While you cannot stop the world going to hell at least you can sit back and enjoy the spectacle.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 02:54
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This is the first time I've seen Hal Colebach's 'Australia's Secret War' get a book review in an MSM paper (if the Cairns News rates as that). There may have been earlier reviews, but if so, I've missed them.

Australia?s Secret War | Cairns News
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 03:17
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Andu...re the highlighted parts in your post. Could not agree more. A massive social experiment, gone very very wrong.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 04:20
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Social engineering along the terms as you describe has not been foisted upon us by both sides. Sadly due to various practicalities of our society, the side that should not be brow beaten (pussy wipped if you will) into going along with it, has.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 04:41
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I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by 'social engineering'. I'm just a layman rh200, I don't have a PhD like you do*. Could you explain it in laymans terms for all of us who can't read between your seemingly coded lines please?

* I quite enjoy reading your posts, as I'm
sure others do. Could you please post a link to your Thesis (or at least the title, most Universities have digitised even older publications now). I'd love to have a read, I'm intrigued.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 05:21
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Backtracking past the interesting effects of social engineering for a moment:

Again, if Pickering is to be believed, Nova Peris has some form on turning public money towards her own purposes. she also has an abiding jealousy of Cathy Freeman. Try searching 'Pickering Peris Freeman grants'.

As for Gillard and Wilson etc. A plausible scenario is Gillard attending the auction of the house in Footscray in order to sign the contract on behalf of a nominee, that is, Blewitt. If Wilson were to keep his living away allowance by becoming Blewitt's tenant, it would be best for a third party - Gillard - to sign the contract with Blewitt as nominee, keeping Wilson's name out of it. I'm sure that the contract has been carefully looked at by VICPOL at least.

The Royal Commission's terms of reference are to investigate misuse of union funds rather than the associated behaviour of Gillard and her mates around the property deal. However, VICPOL, and possibly the ATO could be expected to go further into Gillard's actions.

As to Gillard's mates, look at them. Just a few that have been in the news: Bernard Murphy - Gillard's friend at SAG lawyers. Question marks all over his doings, and promoted to Federal Court judge by Gillard; Robyn McLeod - lying 'best friend' and one time housemate of Gillard, given sinecure as a supposed water resource expert in South Australia by Gillard, but driven out of the job by 'innuendo'; more recently, Nova Peris, a woman of questionable capacity and ethics (just like Gillard) given first spot on the ALP's Senate ticket, thereby ending the successful career of popular sitting senator (and Rudd supporter) Trish Crossin just to give Gillard a little feminist cred, and of course to exact a little more revenge on Rudd's supporters.

Gillard seems to have an affinity with people who regard the truth merely as an option when a lie won't serve better. No wonder - Gillard is a pathological liar herself.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 06:40
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Interesting read.

Of course, it'll never happen here.

Dutch jihadists ? News

Dutch pay the price for tolerance and all that
Soeren Kern

What a really lucky country Australia is!!

ASIO never makes such an alarming report as Dutch intelligence has just made and as follows below. The conclusion must be that Australia has different kinds of Muslims - integrating, undemanding...

Yes, that's it.

While it is true that a man was threatened, then shot in the face with pellets, outside a Shia Muslim prayer hall at Greenacre in Sydney yesterday, it is obvious to all that this is a one-off thing- another isolated incident. It probably had nothing to do with religion, possibly a mistaken identity and a dispute over money owing. Or an accident.

Yes, that's it.]

The Dutch jihadist movement is not only growing explosively in size and strength, it is also becoming increasingly open and provocative, both online and on the streets, according to a new report published by the Dutch intelligence service, AIVD.

The 58-page report, entitled “The Transformation of Jihadism in the Netherlands: Swarm Dynamics and New Strength,” provides an in-depth analysis of the various factors underlying the “new dynamism” of the jihadist phenomenon.

According to the AIVD, the Dutch jihadist movement began a process of far-reaching change in late 2010, when several jihadists were prevented from leaving the Netherlands to join fellow jihadists in Pakistan and Somalia.
Their subsequent interactions with Dutch police and judicial authorities prompted the jihadists and other members of their networks to improve their modus operandi, which eventually led to a wholesale internal professionalization of the movement.

At the same time, Dutch jihadists began adopting propaganda methods developed by fellow jihadists in Britain. Inspired by Islam4UK, a now-banned jihadist group founded by the British Islamist firebrand Anjem Choudary, Dutch jihadists launched their own activist movements, namely Sharia4Holland and Behind Bars/Street Dawah (Straat Dawah).
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 07:02
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AFP quoted as saying.."shooting is an isolated incident"....when will this PC stuff be stopped??
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 10:56
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So... which dead horse did you bet on?
Melbourne Cup 2014: The ugly side of the race that stops a nation
According to Racing Victoria’s website: “Statistics show that more than 90 per cent of horses leaving the racing industry are rehomed directly to the equestrian, pleasure or breeding industries.”
Maybe that happens in Victoria (it is the People's Republic after all ) but wrt to Queensland that is absolute, 100% genuine bullshite.
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Of course the MSM will report on this issue without bias. They have absolutely nothing to gain from publishing the daily form guides, race track gossip guides and the odds from the various sports betting agencies. Even the leftie Project shied away (bad pun intended) from the issue of horse welfare v The Gambling Industry, so I'd guess it's totally untouchable for the rest of the MSM.

Any contrary opinion has been officially deemed by the media as being Un-Australian. After all, apart from gambling, drinking and showing off stupid, badly fitting outfits, what else are horses for?

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Old 4th Nov 2014, 11:42
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The racing industry employs tens of thousands, and gambling revenue is vital to the government coffers. Thoroughbred horse racing is here to stay until people stop betting.

p.s Who Shot Thebarman - for the win
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 12:37
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According to Racing Victoria's website, "Statistics show that more than 90% of horses leaving the racing industry are rehomed directly to the equestrian, pleasure or breeding industries"
. So the pet food industry must be within the racing industry...
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 13:11
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An ABC Radio news bulletin reported that yesterday, thousands of muslims marched through Sydney's CBD to commemorate
an anniversary of the death of prophet Mohammed's grandson.

Hmm..., that's all.
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 13:31
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I wonder if Gillard ever wonders if dumping a founding member of EMILY's list was such a good idea after all. A bit...misogynistic maybe? If it hadn't been for that "list" perhaps we wouldn't have had to put up with her at all, even if she did know which cupboards all the skeletons were in.

Exit interview: Trish Crossin on Julia, Nova and Labor?s strategy | Crikey
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Old 4th Nov 2014, 20:30
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Jacqui Jacqui wants everyone to turn their backs on any politician who speaks at the Nov 11th ceremonies.

Don't think that will work, JJ. No one would trust the bastards not to steal the wreaths if we weren't keeping an eye on them.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 03:16
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No one would trust the bastards not to steal the wreaths if we weren't keeping an eye on them.

Much as I loathe Lambie, I'm glad she's keeping the abysmal ADF pay offer in the spotlight. Abbott's all keen to do the Crusader Rabbit thing against the 'death cult', but he doesn't seem so keen to pay the people actually doing the crusading. With cost of living increases across the board particularly with utilities, 1.5% is going backwards. I wouldn't have considered the ADF to be particularly well paid for what they do, let alone over paid. I know the previous government spent too much, but today's paper has a story on page 2 about how the current mob are going to spend money encouraging couples to get married . IMO both sides waste money, just on different stuff.

And apologies for the racing post, a case of SIPS (Shiraz Induced Posting Syndrome), although not racing related Shiraz . I'm not normally vigorously opposed to horse racing (Hempy's points are very valid, and at the end of the day horses are livestock) but I get sick of the Melbourne Cup hype and the wilful blindness wrt horse welfare that accompanies it every year.
It's become one of those Mandatory Fun Days, where if you don't play along, waste heaps of money and get rotten drunk everyone (and the media) label you a party pooper.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 03:59
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Didn't bet on the cup last year, won't next year. I don't believe in things being banned, but I don't support it personally and it won't get any funding from me.

WRT ADF Pay offer, her propsal that ADF veterans and serving members should "shun" Rememberance Day in order to get their point across is a bit far away from the realms of reality. I'd be very disappointed in anyone who took the 11th of Nov to achieve that aim.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 04:26
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Jacki Jacki (or a clone of her) would be all too familiar to most serving members and veterans who've spent the odd Friday evening in a soldier's/sailor's/airmen's mess. She's by no means unique - there are such people (of both genders) out there among our serving troops, if thankfully in relatively small numbers.

My guess would be that while many servicemen are glad to see someone keeping the pay issue in the news, 99% - OK, make that 90% (as I mentioned in the paragraph above, there are the odd few Jacki Jacki clones out there) - would wish with all their hearts that it was someone else waving the banner for them and in a very different way to the way she is.

I heard her interviewed by Chris Smith on 2GB this afternoon. Surely to God she would have employed a media advisor by now to school her in how to handle an unfriendly interviewer. From the way she handled herself in the (thankfully brief) interview with Smith, it would appear not.

If she's going to be a media tart endlessly chasing attention and dishing out sound bites, she really owes it to herself to learn how to come across better than she does now. Currently, she's making Kath (Kaff?) and Kim look like well-spoken private school princesses.

Her slurred delivery might go down well with the dyed in the wool uberbogans, (who you'd hope are not a huge proportion of the population), but she destroys whatever message she tries to get across with many the moment she opens her 'mouf'.

I'm sure the catholic Church was absolutely thrilled to learn last week that she "a Caflick'.

I know I'm repeating myself, but in light of the (what amounts to a) paycut he has given to servicemen, Tony Abbott might - stress MIGHT - recover some credibility if he announced that he was arbitrarily winding back the huge pay rises Julia Gillard gave to politicians before she was turfed out by her own Pardee.

I know it will never happen, but just once, I'd really like to see a Prime Minister do something like that, if only to watch the screaming outrage from damn near every other politician.
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Old 5th Nov 2014, 06:07
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Labour/socialist/greens/university graduates sticking up for the military? Now that's a first !
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