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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 26th Oct 2014, 08:26
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What is the muslim population so scared of, that they accept so readily, threats to Western civilisation on their behalf?
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 09:12
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So Trafic is were was and hempy, When would be an appropriate time to consider internment of these third world peasants? Before or after a major happening on Australian soil?
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 10:39
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Originally Posted by Theodore Roosevelt, 1919
'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an Anerican at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag.... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.'
The above quote has been bastardised by some internet random as being a quote of Edmund Barton, but it's not. Regardless of who spoke the words, I'm in full agreement of the sentiment. What I can't garner is people who simply generalise, or tar a 'group' with the same brush. Its ignorant and simple, and speaks volumes of the people making the statement, not who they are making the statement against.

The arrogance of 'I am right, you are wrong' isn't only galling, it's pathetic
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 10:49
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Owen. You dont need me to answer your question, you obviously know the answer you want. Google 'kristallnacht', I think this is the answer you are looking for
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:05
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Something tells me that Hempy and Co. have not yet found themselves face to face with an Arab foe who will gladly remove their head from the rest of their body, ( I saw the result first hand in Aden, 1964).


Hempy and Co, deign to show their experience but I suggest it is safe to say they haven't been there, haven't done it and don't really know what they are talking about. What is really pathetic is the 'Holier than Though' attitude that Hempy assumes from his perceived high moral ground. It isn't the likes of me that are ignorant or arrogant Hempy, it is you.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:08
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Oh I served my time, I even demonstrate it once a year. Please do enthrall us all with your 'experience'...
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:12
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What I can't garner is people who simply generalise, or tar a 'group' with the same brush. Its ignorant and simple, and speaks volumes of the people making the statement, not who they are making the statement against.
Actually its all got to do with statistics and distributions, a simple fact of science. Of course none think all Muslims are "evil"

People who deal with large populations and try and deal in absolute figures usually have a poor understanding of statistical distributions as applied to social populations.

They also usually have a very poor understanding of social evolution and the basic concept of forcing functions in effecting change amongst said populations. Which is ironic since they usually try and use the same methods to enforce their views.

A good example of this by the left, is shame etc, the usual rolling out of so called "Hitler" comparisons being a classic. This being the greatest snow job of all time, since he was a left wing socialist, who amongst the Chinese and Soviets are responsibility for the greatest atrocities known to man.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:15
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third world peasants
Not much room to manouvre there. I think that says a lot more about you than me.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:20
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Of course none think all Muslims are "evil"
Of course you don't, but lets lock em all up in a cage just on the off chance hey?
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:24
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Are we peddling fear just for the sake of it? - The Drum (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Well what do you knowe!
And there was me thinking that Paras active service was a security guard on a Kibultz..
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:25
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Not much room to manouvre there. I think that says a lot more about you than me.
I deal in facts only, most are peasants with no ability to become members of our society, hence their tendency to form sub groups. I is what I is, you on the other hand are a victim of your ignorance of the muslim world and the culture that drives them

but lets lock em all up in a cage just on the off chance hey?
Yes indeed
This being the greatest snow job of all time, since he was a left wing socialist,
I don't think so, they were right wing extremists
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:26
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Stop press. Hitler was a left wing socialist!!! God, I've read some deluded crap on these boards ovef the last 12 years, but that absolutely takes the cake! Please dude, do a PhD thesis or something on that topic, you'll change the thinking of historians and political theorists the world over!!!

Just in case your education finished in grade 2...

Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪz(ə)m/; alternatively spelled Naziism),[1] or National Socialism in full, is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and state as well as other related far-right groups
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 11:51
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I think Ethel uses misspellings and the impossibly bad grammar she inflicts upon us here as some sort of Leftie badge of honour. (And to annoy reactionary old pedants like moi). She can't constantly make so many gross errors by mistake.

...can she?




And, with the above in mind, am I the only one who strongly suspects that Ethel = Hempy? A version of Ethel who can spell and knows the difference between 'have' and 'of' as part of a verb?

And yes, I do consider that fundamentalist Islam has quite openly admitted that it is at war with the (largely post-) Christian West and that what can only be called a Fifth Column (in the Spanish Civil War sense) living within the West is very much a part of their war strategy. There is no doubt this 'Fifth Column' exists - the events of the last few days in Canada and the last few weeks in the US, where Islamic terrorist leaders have openly urged muslims living in the West to randomly kill any non-muslim citizen in the West (the so-called 'Lone Wolf') clearly show this to be true.

It's just that so far, it has proven impossible to convince the political leadership of any country in the West (along with many people like Ethel/Hempy) to acknowledge that that state of war exists and that unpalatable measures might need to be applied to fellow citizens living amongst us who are openly supporting the people who have declared war on us - or just accept that we have already lost that war if we don't soon start defending ourselves.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 12:05
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Yeah, coz if more than one person disagrees with you it's either a conspiracy (although I thought 'conspiracies' were solely the realm of left wing nut-jobs..?), or the same person posting under different names, right? Of course! It's a massive conspiracy...ALL the people who disagree with you are just one person posting under different names!

wan.ker...
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 12:17
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unpalatable measures might need to be applied to fellow citizens living amongst us who are openly supporting the people who have declared war on us
And if they are openly supporting them then I have no problem with that, but if you apply those unpalatable measures across a whole section of our community, irrespective of their actions or feelings, my bet is you will find a whole lot more in that group start to think that maybe the other guys aren't that far off the mark after all.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 12:32
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Happy now?
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 12:35
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Not really, Kitchener was actually cross-eyed....They fixed that, though, with a little disinformation. Sound familiar?
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 16:30
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Describing Hitler as a "left wing socialist" must surely take the prize as the most comically stupid and pig-ignorant contribution thus far to this twee crypto-fascist echo chamber, despite such robust competition.

Giving voice to such profound ignorance almost enables 7x7's vicious paranoid frothings to appear semi-lucid in comparison, quite an achievement in itself.

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Old 26th Oct 2014, 21:18
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PhD thesis or something on that topic, you'll change the thinking of historians and political theorists the world over!!!
How do you know I havn't? As for political theorists and historians, well their only a building or two away and frankly considering the majority's political leanings its no wonder things are written that way.

Describing Hitler as a "left wing socialist" must surely take the prize as the most comically stupid and pig-ignorant contribution thus far to this twee crypto-fascist echo chamber, despite such robust competition.
The description of whats left and white is a cluster f$%k. The association of the so called right with brutal facisim etc has been traditional. This myth has been perpetuated by the left for decades, a classic case of telling the populace enough times and they will believe it. A MO that is well versed by socialists.

The fact is Hitler was a stated socialist, a lefty, and even if we accepted him on our side, he pales in comparison to what the Chinese and Soviets did, which are generally regarded as left.
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Old 26th Oct 2014, 21:37
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Jihadist?s passports: exile or keep them here?

A point of view that Fool Sufferer would not agree with.
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