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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 9th Dec 2013, 01:05
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This morning, ALPBC Sydney radio interviewed one of the 20 Australians whose passports have been cancelled, a 19 year old labourer named Abu Someoneorother.

Some here might not be aware that this man would not have been born with that name. To have a name "Abu -", (literally "father of"), this man must have a son (I don't think daughters count; I've never heard of a Muslim declaring himself to be "Abu Fatima"). Until having a son of his own, he would have been e.g., "Ali bin Mohammed", literally, "Ali, son of Mohammed" and his sister would have been "Fatima bint Mohammed", ("Fatima, daughter of Mohammed"). After siring a son, he becomes "Ali Abu Someoneorother" (the first son's name).

So the young man, still a teenager, is manfully doing his bit to increase the numbers of his family members among the future generations in Australia.

Of course, he insisted that he had no plans to travel to Syria to fight, and neither were the videos he had produced designed to encourage people to go to Syria to fight. But he went on to insist that the Jews were radicalising young people here against the Arabs.

I can't help but think ASIO (=the current Federal Government) would have been far better advised to have cancelled the passports of these people only after each person considered to be a security threat had left the country. Then, when that person attempted to have his passport re-issued, he would be required to prove where he had been and what he had been doing whilst overseas and if he had broken Australian law by fighting in a civil war as a member of an unofficial militia, (or even as "a humanitarian aid worker", which seems to be what they all do in Syria and elsewhere), he could know that if he returned to Australia, he would face gaol.

Everyone would be the winner. The people involved could avoid gaol and remain free by staying in the country - and the society - they had fought for, and the Australian taxpayer would be saved the expense of accommodating them at Her Majesty's Hotel Nofrills at Goulburn.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 01:18
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True Andu, but at least ASIO's action has sent a message to the rest of these 'hyphen Australians' that don't seem to be happy here.

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Old 9th Dec 2013, 03:41
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They're happy here every time they go to that ATM every fortnight with their (sometimes multiple) Centrelink cards, Capt Dart.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 05:39
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The Victorian magistrate has found in favour of the police in the Bruce Wilson/AWU fraud case, finding that Wilson - (and one could only assume, his lawyer, who advised him and set up the slush fund) - has a case to answer.

Interesting times ahead - but I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for said lawyer to be doing a perp. walk, however much that lawyer might richly deserve to be doing one.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 05:47
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AN ASYLUM seeker has been charged for allegedly sexually assaulting seven teenage girls at the Sydney Olympic Park Aquatic Centre yesterday.

Mohammad Salem Nazari, 33, who has only been in Australia for six months on a bridging visa, is accused of indecently assaulting the girls, aged 14 to 18, in the rapids section of the centre between 4pm and 4.30pm.

Police said the girls reported the incident to pool security and after officers reviewed CCTV footage Nazari was arrested and taken to Auburn Police Station.

Nazari, who was living in Parramatta, has been charged with five counts of indecent assault of a person under 16 years of age and two counts of assault with an act of indecency.

His legal aid lawyer told Burwood Local Court his client spoke no English and required a Dari interpreter. Dari is a Persian language spoken in Iran and Afghanistan.

Nazari was refused bail to reappear on Wednesday.

Under the Coalition government asylum seekers on bridging visas facing criminal charges immediately have their visas revoked and placed in detention.

Abbott Government in crime crackdown on asylum seekers

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison's office confirmed Nazari's visa had been cancelled and court papers said he was the "subject of an immigration hold" should he be granted bail.

Mr Morrison's spokesman said "since the election 31 illegal boat arrivals on bridging visas who were charged with criminal offences have had their bridging visas cancelled".

Immigration staff interviewed Nazari today while he was in custody.
Wait for the lawyer to tell us that cultural differences should excuse this poor man as, in his culture, all the nubile bare flesh displayed in front of him made it the young females' fault that he simply could not control himself.

Under Labor, he'd be allowed to say here after he was released. It will be interesting to see if Scott Morrison has the cojones to put him on a flight out of the country the moment he completes whatever sentence he is awarded for his afternoon in pool.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 05:52
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And in other news, the lefties reckon is such a good idea releasing these people into the community, I hope he is deported immediately and Sarah Two Dads explains to the girls in question what this person was in this country in the first place.

Man charged over alleged assault of seven teenage girls at Sydney swimming pool - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 09:07
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He'd have to work fast in that rapids section.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 10:44
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In the Dubai Wild Wadi, the viewing platform over the rapids section was VERY popular with the local lads, as it wasn't unusual for the young expat females to lose their bikini tops - and on the odd occasion, the bottom as well - in the rapids.

It would seem that the lads from that same part of the world are a little more 'hands on' in Western Sydney.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 10:51
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Yes, they are more hands on because they are " only " Australian girls, so doing indecent things to them doesn't really count.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 10:52
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I imagine there's a tough penalty for being 'hands on' in Dubai. If found guilty I hope they do deport him; the country already has more than enough perverts and gropers.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 11:56
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Thought the 'ALPBC' didn't report this sort of stuff??
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 12:09
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Perhaps Trioli and Alberici could try out these rapids, with camera crew. Do some real reporting.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 12:15
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Or perhaps the MSM could do some real reporting on the current state of boat arrivals??
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 14:13
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In what way? There's a press conference every Friday.

The government is entitled to manage the situation as it thinks best. The idea is to stop the boats by nobbling the people smugglers, not to sell papers.

I don't know if you condoned Labor's attempts at solving the problem (it had largely created) Fliegs, but in general, the ALP are the last people who should be telling anyone how to stop the boats.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 14:17
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Having said that, I've just had an idea that might be a disincentive. How about having Sarah H-Y on the dock a Flying Fish Cove, skirt hooked up over her slim thigh, saying "hullo sailor!" as the boats arrive?
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 14:38
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Just stand Christine Milne in the dock. That leathery face will have them jumping back on their leaky boats in a heart beat!
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 16:58
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How about having Sarah H-Y on the dock a Flying Fish Cove, skirt hooked up over her slim thigh, saying "hullo sailor!" as the boats arrive?
Just stand Christine Milne in the dock. That leathery face will have them jumping back on their leaky boats in a heart beat!

You heartless barsteward! Have you no mercy...?
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 21:00
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Careful lads and ladesses; Sarah Twodads is suing Zoo magazine for "ridiculing" her and making her look "a not serious politician" by planting her head on a killer bikini-clad body.

I can only imagine that the magazine's lawyer's line of defence will be that it would not be possible for anyone else to do a better job of making herself look and sound ridiculous than Sarah does herself every time she opens her mouth in front of those ever-obliging MSM cameras.

The woman gives a whole new dimension to 'lightweight' - not in avoirdupois, but in intelligence.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 21:19
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ALPBC reporting this morning three dead and 27 rescued by Indonesian SAR authorities when an asylum seeker boat was hit by a large wave and then turned back to Indonesia.

The fact that the Australian Navy was not involved probably means that the boat broached as it attempted to get beyond the first line of breakers and the survivors made it back to shore by body surfing.

The same report said that an Afghan who is appealing his forced return to Kabul, if successful in his appeal, will affect the cases of 100 others in a similar situation.

The ABC's fact check unit (sorry, that should be Fact Check Unit) also reports that the Coalition's claims that asylum seeker arrivals have reduced by 80% are "problematic" and that the reduction could be attributed to "other factors" rather than the Coalition's policies.
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Old 9th Dec 2013, 21:30
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I think the interesting part ( if true) of the report is that it states the AS survivors are in custody. It sounds like the Indonesians might be cooperating (a bit) again.A few weeks ago they were talking about closing detention centres and letting the flood gates open.
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