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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 28th Sep 2013, 23:57
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This sort of media circus BS is the reason TA is keeping a low profile with reports. Strangely, the labor govt embraced the attention, even if it was detrimental to their cause. Go figure.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 00:12
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Asylum seeker boat sank 50 metres off Indonesian shore, survivors say - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Old 29th Sep 2013, 00:18
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I'm embarrassed to say that I've just been shouting at the television.

Viewers of SkyNews are currently seeing the downside of Tony Abbott's refusal to pander to the 24 hour news cycle. Peter VanAlsoran and Paul Kelly are currently interviewing - not a Labor member, but an ex-Labor lower house member who LOST HIS **** SEAT in the last election.

The "I would have been Defence Minister if we'd won" - who didn't even manage to hold his *** seat (the ex Member for Eden Monaro) tries to sell himself as an ex-soldier. He was a bloody Army lawyer, about three tiers under apprentice dog handler in the Army food chain. (The stress being on 'apprentice' - trained dog handlers actually do something.)

What a total waste of space this man is.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 00:35
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Re Andu's `Note also that, after Kevin's (remember him?) HERES KEVIN!

Full Story here:
Kevin Rudd out in the cold in New York
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 02:36
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Let's hope that someone puts the slipper into these apparent parasites. It appears that greed may not be confined to other than Coalition members, remembering that a certain Peter Slipper who the Coalition reckon is a rorter was once a member of that very same Coalition.

Ministers claimed costs for wedding trip
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 03:38
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So we have cousins on boats ringing cousins in Australia to say that the boat is 50 metres off the beach and breaking up...please send help. Asylum Seekers, my ar$e.They are organised country shoppers, nothing more, nothing less.

And stay with the media policy Tony, it's driving them mad
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 03:45
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Another version of the story, this time NOT from the Silly Moaning Herald but the guys whose wedding it was:

Michael Smith News

The press must hate that they haven't got attention seeking pollies 'feeding the chooks" every few minutes with a "Today I announce blah blah blah"

Life is so much more relaxing now
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 04:03
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Put on it whatever spin you like, but would Brandis have reimbursed the taxpayer were the issue not raised by the SMH? Note that Brandis' letter bears today's date, presumably written after the issue was raised in the media.

I wonder how many other phillies have tried to fleece the taxpayer with an economical interpretation of the rules? I seem to recall that one Tony Abbott had to repay a fair sum to the taxpayer that was 'inadvertantly' claimed at the time of his book promotion.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 04:46
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If the Brit MPs are anything to go by, I'd say the vast majority of Australian MPs - of all stripes - look upon their parliamentary salary as money not to be touched if at all possible - i.e., they live as much as possible on their allowances. I suspect that all but a very few of them push the boundaries as far as they think they can get away with. Slipper came to his electorate's and the media's attention only because he was shameless and made no attempt to hide that he was out to milk the System for every dollar he could.

I know of one politician who reached a VERY high position - like leadership of his Party - who was infamous in another leadership role outside politics for taking totally unnecessary flights (paid for by the organisation he ran) just to build up his frequent flyer points.

Back to the Brits, I understand that many if not most were caught out fiddling the books over large ticket items like claiming allowances on second residences etc., but very, very few were even charged - and they've not been made to pay the money back. A parliamentary equivalent of "if you owe the bank a million dollars and can't repay it, you're in trouble; if you owe the bank a hundred million dollars and can't repay it, the bank's in trouble"? They didn't go ahead with prosecutions because they were damn near all guilty to some degree.

Way back when I had some close exposure to the RAAF VIP fleet, I saw a number of... how should I put it? "quite possibly inappropriate" passengers carried, I'm assuming at taxpayers' expense, on what amounted to little more than junkets. Then again, those unusual passengers may have paid their own way. But somehow I doubt it.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 05:58
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Since TA is using the ‘treat ‘em mean, keep ‘em keen’ method with the meedja, all we see is sound bites of Liarbor and Watermelon (aka Green) pollies. The latest offering from Short Willie on the ALPBC is his pledge to have more gay members in parliament. These deadsh*ts still don’t get it, do they?
Can someone please tell me why gender and sexuality are more important than ability? Preferably a True Believer please, coz I like a larf! Still, with that sort of thinking they can look forward to more than one term in opposition.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 06:54
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Well, if they have more gay members in Parliament, then less chance
of a Cheryl Kernot type affair occurring

Then again, you could have another type of affair scandal !
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 07:10
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Since when are Australians expected to rescue boats sinking off Indonesian beaches? With the Australian taxpayers picking up the tab. Haven't seen a single media outlet suggesting it was f*ck all to do with us.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 07:12
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What about some asylum seeker cousins in Parliament. Then they could get calls from the beach in Java, and dispatch a taxi directly from their seat in Canberra, ensuring instant pick up.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 07:20
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I think all of these reports have got a bit messy and confused
and one boat and what happened got mixed up with another
boat even closer to shore.

Either way, I don't know why the media is making such an
issue of it all except of course to try to pressure TA.

They need to let it go and move onto important Australian
stuff like focus on TA Policies and what is going on there.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 07:24
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I'm embarrassed to say that I've just been shouting at the television
Happens at my place too Andu. Got into trouble from Mrs.GB whilst I was watching the Geelong/Hawthorne game last weekend, during which Geelong successfully eliminated themselves from the finals.

Happened again this morning when I had to sit through some vision run on 'The Insiders" of some jumped up little prick asylum seeker, blaming Australia for the drownings after their went down off the coast of Indonesia yesterday.
He said they had been sending the 'Australian government' their GPS coordinates for 24 hours and that no-one turned up to rescue them. So it's evidentially our fault that so many people drowned and also our fault that the little dipshit ended up back where he came from, instead of being mollycoddled on Christmas Island.

The boat wasn't that far off the coast and it was something like 45 miles inside Indonesia's territorial waters. Where was the Indonesian Navy or their coastal patrol boats? MIA as usual. And why weren't the Indonesian authorities contacted by the people in distress as opposed to them trying to bluff our Navy into doing the dirty work of picking them up? It was clearly the Indon's who should've been Johnny on the spot in this instance.

None of those questions were asked by anyone on the program of course, but we did have David Marr front up to tell us how it's all our fault (especially the new Abbott government of course) and why the Indonesians aren't responsible for anything that happens that is less than a stones throw from off their own coast.
No yelling this time at David, but just mute resignation of the fact that that's about as good as we're going to get on the ABC these days.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 07:51
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But the point is HMAS Taxi, did not arrive on the Java coast. They ended up back where they came from, and Tony is basically staying silent on the matter.

As I said last night, HMAS Taxi is no longer in service, and the ALPBC and the rest of the huggy fluffs are going to have to get used to it!
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 08:47
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Are the talking heads at the ABC so deeply self-absorbed in their own cossetted little inner city snow dome - and so sure that they must continue to present only their (read the ALP's) version of events that they cannot see that they are literally biting the hand that now feeds them?

Surely if they maintain their current blatantly one-eyed handling of the 'news', they're making it easy for the new government to rein them in far more severely than it would be able to if they were to be presenting news that was not so blatantly partisan and selective.
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 08:50
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Wouldn't the reverse situation be an interesting one to watch, were the ALP still in power: The MSM would be full of words like, "Statesman Like", "A true Statesman", "He/She knows what he/she is doing", "Silent is the way to go".

I think it is fairly obvious what the Government are doing, getting things moving in a positive direction before they present the Cancellation of the Carbon Tax Bill, by then TA and Co. will have built considerable credibility with the Australian public and at the first sign of the Greens and others blocking his policies he will call for the Double Dissolution, clean out the Greens and be able to have at least three years of positive government, hopefully being able to correct and recover some of the ALP's disasters of the last six years. We can dream, can't we?
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Old 29th Sep 2013, 10:23
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Oh, now here is a surprise. Survivors from the boat sinking, are reporting that the Indonesian Army drove them to the place where they boarded the boats.

It appears this whole story saga is been run with the cooperation of those in high places in Indonesia. It makes it clearer as to why there are few arrests of any people smugglers, and anyone arriving by air into Jakarta with a boat ticket and guide to the wild life of Christmas Island, is welcomed with open arms.

Oh, and Milne wants an inquiry. Why doesn't she do an enquiry of her own as to why the Indonesians are incapable of rescuing a sinking boat in their own waters, almost within wading distance off the beach? Or do some inward reflection of how her huggy fluff policies have encouraged these idiots to put themselves and their kids in unseaworthy boats in the first place. Or better still, she could just go away and be quiet, like Two Dads.

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Old 29th Sep 2013, 10:59
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It's going to be very interesting watching the media report
in the next 6 - 12 months on TA and the Gov't.

At the moment I think they are "lost", not knowing which
way to go, what to do as they don't have a Gov't that spoon
feeds them information which they can just rehash into a story.

I would expect a few "manufactured" stories along the way to
try to generate "shock horror" headlines.

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