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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 25th Sep 2013, 19:42
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I thought this was a good start to an article about the changes
to student uni funding.

"University leaders accuse Coalition government of reviving
outdated ideological debate."


Also, Milne was on the news this morning denying that a crisis of leadership
was occurring in the Greens party
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Old 25th Sep 2013, 19:59
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I think Milne is floating down that big river in Egypt.
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Old 25th Sep 2013, 20:00
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Absolutely.

It won't be long before Brandt is installed as leader.

Which is a pity as he might galvanise more support
which is not what I want.
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Old 25th Sep 2013, 20:14
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Perhaps there is an opening on a boat near Russia.
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Old 25th Sep 2013, 20:16
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In power or out, the ALP just keep squabbling:
BILL Shorten has admitted rigging a question for his debate with Anthony Albanese as new details emerged of the comedy of errors in the back of a Sydney taxi to the event.
The Labor leadership hopeful’s top spin doctor was left by herself in the back of the taxi after becoming trapped in the disabled section.
Mr Shorten, former Minister Richard Marles and another staffer were unable to extract her, leading to criticism from the driver who also claimed Mr Shorten was rude to him.
SHORTEN RUN-IN WITH SYDNEY CABBIE
“Where do they get off on this whole misogyny trip, all the blokes got out and I’ve got a wheelchair accessible car and there was a woman sitting right in the back and you have to push the seat forward,” the driver David told 2GB.
“They just got out and left her in the back and I turned around and said ‘don’t worry.’ I had to get out.”
The driver intervened as the female staffer attempted to climb over a middle seat row but it is understood Mr Shorten and the other passengers had been unable to work out how to operate the seat.
Mr Marles denied Mr Shorten had been rude, despite the driver’s claims he was an “elitist” and had “got in right in my face with it” and yelled at him and became aggressive. “I think it has become evident that the taxi driver was not a fan of Bill’s,” Mr Marles said.
“But there were four of us in the taxi and none of us were rude, including Bill and certainly no voices were raised.”
Mr Shorten admitted to telling a Labor Party member, whom he called ‘Big Boy,’ during a phone conversation during the cab ride to ask him what kind of Prime Minister he wanted to be.
He was asked the workshopped question and replied he wanted to be a leader for “the powerless, the disempowered, the people who don’t have a voice in our society.”
His spokeswoman said he had taken a similar question a day before and thought the answer would be of interest.
The Laybor Pardee? Misogynist?

On a slightly different tack; I see the former Climate Commission has been renamed and will be funded privately. So ALP, now that it has been established that the Climate Commission is able to function without taxpayer funding, can I have my taxes back?
Chief bullsh*t artist Flannery reckons he already has backers, but of course wont say who. The Greens? ALP? Would they put their money where their rather large mouths are, or is it just us poor taxpayers that are required to fund their fantasies?
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 02:13
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I found myself in the rather unusual situation of being embarrassed for Julia GilAARD when I saw the two teenage American "interviewers", (one black, one Asian - gotta get the minorities properly represented - and they would have to have been unpaid interns, the very bottom of the food chain in American politics), who were conducting the painful interview with her at the Clinton talkfest.

They were about as clueless about her and who she was as she was at being a Prime Minister. The Yanks just can't get past "Gil-LLARD" when pronouncing her name. I suppose it all boils down to the emp-PHARS-sis you put in which syl-LARR-ble.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 02:48
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The media do NOT like what Abbott is doing as they actually
have to do some work for a change !!!
Abbott defends first days of govt

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has defended his government's first days in office, saying his ministers are "hard at work" but not rushing decisions.

A media appearance in Melbourne on Thursday was only the second time Mr Abbott has fronted journalists since his government was sworn in on September 18.


The government has yet to set a date for the first sitting of parliament and given no firm indication when the next major economic statement - the mid-year economic and fiscal outlook - will be released.
Mr Abbott told reporters Australia was "open for business" and confidence was returning to the economy.
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"We are moving swiftly to abolish the carbon tax, to get the budget back under control, to stop the boats and build the roads of the 21st century," Mr Abbott said.
"I do want to assure the people of ... Australia that the new government is hard at work for them.
"We are not rushing things, but we are getting things done."
Mr Abbott confirmed reports he had asked ministers to clear all their media appearances with his office - an arrangement which he said worked well in opposition.
"We will be a consultative and collegial government ... internally as well as externally," he said.
"It's very important that the government speaks with a united voice."
Mr Abbott said his ministers were "active in their portfolios", naming Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison and Environment Minister Greg Hunt as having put their "stamp on the affairs of the nation".
A date for parliament's first sitting would be announced shortly, he said.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 04:19
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"We are moving swiftly to abolish the carbon tax, to get the budget back under control, to stop the boats and build the roads of the 21st century," Mr Abbott said.
Apart from a few other platitudes, is this the only thing Abbott has to say? It seems to me that he needs a new script-writer before those who are listening turn off.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 04:27
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Personally, I think overall he is right to take a quiet view.
Maybe he could have been a bit more visible saying what
is being done but I think overall, get everything working
first and then start the talking as opposed to Rudd who was
talk talk talk.

Labor is too shell shocked and disorganised to take advantage
of it ATM so it's not like he is under relentless attack.

And finally, I think people want a break from never ending
pollies on the TV, Radio and Newspapers with 30 second
sound bites every hour.

I am certainly enjoying the peace and quiet.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 04:41
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I am certainly enjoying the peace and quiet.
+1

I'm happy to judge a government's performance on actions rather than words. Over the past 6 years, we've been forced to judge on both, because of the barrage of words and their inconsistency with the actions.

But I must admit experiencing a hint of concern at the tone of Abbott's presser today; simply because it sounded like parrotspeak without substance. I'm hoping for a bit more substance as we go.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 04:57
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Not seeing a politician telling what he or she is "gunna" do every time I turn on the TV or listen to the radio has been like a breath of fresh air for me. I think Abbott's team (Peta Credlin's husband?) is consciously trying to reclaim John Howard's idea of politics should be boring.

It's working for me - but I would love to see a pull on your heartstrings interview with a boatload of country shoppers who have arrived back on Java after being turned around by the RAN. And then see them try to get their money back from the people smugglers (ain't gunna happen, habibi).
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 04:58
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But I must admit experiencing a hint of concern at the tone of Abbott's presser today; simply because it sounded like parrotspeak without substance. I'm hoping for a bit more substance as we go.
That's what I was implying. The more I hear of Coalition 'plans' and actions, the more I'm convinced that the Coalition is a policy-free zone. Little has changed.

On matters Foreign, how could our Foreign Minister have such a different take from her New York meeting with the Indonesians? Is it a matter of not wanting to hear anyone but herself?
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 05:52
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I think the media is in shock, because Mr Sheen and his red headed mate, aren't bobbing up every 30 seconds with another poorly thought out policy, that was sure to be all spin and no substance, but could fill the first minute of the six o'clock news.

As for Tony's mantra, well he said what he is trying to do...that's it at the moment. There is nothing more to see, so he is not doing a Kevin and donning a high viz to announce a new initiative for peach growers in Ballarat. They are simply working away, and there is nothing left to say.

Give them some time, they have got 6 years of total disaster to try and unwind. I know, if I was trying to do it, I don't think I would even know where to start.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 06:02
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"The more I hear of Coalition 'plans' and actions, the more I'm convinced that the Coalition is a policy-free zone."

I think you are so used to KRudd making policy on the run every 5 minutes
the Coalition looks like they are policy free when in fact it is just like a
normal Gov't of the past.

They have policies, they are just trying to implement them instead
of having foot in mouth disease or mouth continually open.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 06:54
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Correct 500. Less talk and more do.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 12:42
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I think Abbott has got it exactly right, as the saying goes, "It is the empty vessels that make the most noise".
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 21:11
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Ex-foreign Minister Alexander Downer stirring the possum with his rather undiplomatic comments about his "good friend" the current Indonesian Foreign Minister's attitude about each nation's sovereignty.

Am I the only one who thinks that Downer is being anything but a loose cannon here? Quite the opposite in fact. Is Abbott using him to send a message to the Indonesians that the days of dealing with the kindy class are over? A message that is loud and clear, but, because it has come from someone who is not in the current government, is 'deniable', thus saving Indonesians that all-important 'face'?

Meanwhile, the ABC reports this morning that an RAN vessel rescued 70 asylum seekers off the Java coast, (I'm assuming yesterday or overnight). My only comment is - why? If the Indonesians are so touchy about Australia infringing their sovereignty, what in the world are our naval vessels doing off their coastline?
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 21:14
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"Is Abbott using him to send a message to the Indonesians that the days of dealing with the kindy class are over?"

+ 100

"If the Indonesians are so touchy about Australia infringing their sovereignty, what in the world are our naval vessels doing off their coastline?"

Our (as in Aust) SAR responsibilities extends very very close to the
coast so it depends on EXACTLY where they were which is why
you may have noticed I keep a close eye on the Kms stated.

I think Indonesia is going to have to compromise at some point,
TA has made it clear things are going to change.

Greens - Christine Milne
The truth comes out, Christines days are numbered according to the
media report in the Age. The real reason her chief of staff left was
she sacked him as he backed a move to put Brandt in as leader which
is what I expected, they just had to wait until after the election
to make sure he kept his seat.
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Old 27th Sep 2013, 00:28
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In order for the Greens to have a 'stay of execution' from going the way of the Democrats installing Bandt would be a decent move regardless of what I actually think of him and his party (And those inner city trendy Melbournites who re-elected him) . Milne is just plain embarrassing and when asked pressing questions by real journalists she has absolutely no idea.

Her and the rest of the Greens speak like the other 90% of the electorate who didn't vote for them actually care what they think.
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Agree and have always said the same, Bandt is great news
for the Greens and bad news for us.
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