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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 19th Sep 2013, 13:53
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Andu...Sarah Two Dads has been very quiet of late, I'm wondering when she will start stealing oxygen again. And it appears what she does/does not like is becoming more irrevellent by the hour.
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 21:53
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Interesting article with some interesting points on Abbott and one woman
in Cabinet. Quite well done actually.

"Learning the limits of small l-liberalism"

Learning the limits of small l-liberalism
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 05:10
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Tim Flannery was getting 180 grand for a part time job. To explain climate change to Australia. No wonder we are in trouble.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 07:05
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Be thankful for small mercies, SOPS. Imagine the damage the bastard would have done had he been employed full time.

Just the desal plants in (is it only three?) capital cities on the east coast will be a gift from the Greens that keeps on giving to the long-suffering taxpayer for the foreseeable future. On the ABC this morning, they said one of them, (I think the one in Brisbane, but am not sure), is costing a million dollars a week to maintain. It doesn't produce any water for that price, just sits there sucking money from the economy.

I read on the Bolt report that the Greens are refusing to say how many members they currently have in the Party, but at their peak, they had only slightly more than 5000. That means this country of 23 million+ has been held to ransom for six years by a political party which has considerably fewer than 5,000 members. (and from what Bolt says, he believes it is CONSIDERABLY fewer than 5,000).

Add to that, next July, we will have two or three senators starting a six year term who elicited fewer than two thousand primary votes, (one of them around 1200).

The system of government we exist under is barking mad.
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 07:29
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Collingwood FC have got more than 5000 members!
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Old 20th Sep 2013, 10:45
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...Add to that, next July, we will have two or three senators starting a six year term who elicited fewer than two thousand primary votes, (one of them around 1200).

The system of government we exist under is barking mad....
Ah, caint be all bad. If them tiddles senators have their way i'll be able to wear a desert eagle in public and put 42 inch tyres on me four wheel drive..










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Old 20th Sep 2013, 11:18
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So lets see if I have this correct. A party with less than 5000 members has supported/forced upon us a policy that has allowed 50000 country shoppers into Australia. At a cost, just to process alone, of $200,000 each?? Do I have this correct, or have I been smoking illegal substances?

Sarah Two Dads and Co should be arrested for treason IMO.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 01:53
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Not sure if it was shown outside Victoria but one Christmas, a few years ago, they showed an ad on TV, mainly in slow motion, with the song, "Everybody Knows" but the words changed, I think, to "Everybody Hurts" or similar. I thought it would be quite effective, especially on the youngsters. Maybe not.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 02:12
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SOPS

They never see the cost as they will never be in power
where it matters !!!
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 02:19
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The militant element of theTrade Union Movement and the Greens are the two classic examples of Power Without Responsibility.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 02:24
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Agree.

Plenty of others in the country are the same.

Want to lock this up, lock that up but not bear the cost.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 03:03
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There are some among the Greens who really believe all that warm and fuzzy **** and honestly think that they can magically change the world for the better at no cost to anyone, (the classic "Eastern Suburbs doctor's wives" profile - and that *** oxygen thief SHY - both fit very neatly into this group).

However, there is another, far more sinister element within the Greens, and that is the Communist/Socialist extremists (like, for example, Lee Rhiannon) who were suddenly in need of a home after the collapse of the Soviet Union. They found that home in the Greens movement, where they could continue to practise all their old ideas - and importantly, maintain exactly the same aims they had when they called themselves Communists - under the guise of 'saving the environment'. Hence the very accurate "watermelons" name some give them - Green on the outside, red on the inside.

I don't know what group Bob Brown was closer to, I suspect the former, but surely he could not have been unaware of the real aims of some of his fellow travellers within the Greens. As for Christine Milne... I don't think she fits in anywhere. In a free society, we must allow such people their say, but it is an utter travesty that our electoral system is such that such a small number of people with ideas and ideals so utterly at odds with the vast majority of the population - and with the people who have to pay for their unrealistic ideas - can assert so much influence on government as the Greens have done over the last six years.

My explanation is that Julia Gillard was not forced at all or was in any way unwilling to agree with even the most crazy Greens policies that were shoved down an unwilling Australia's throat over the last six years. For I believe Julia Gillard fitted - and continues to fit - rather snugly into the group I described in my second paragraph. She just found her 'home' in the Labor Party rather than with the Greens.

Hey, on a brighter note, today's the equinox - after today, the sun's coming back into our lives. In more ways than one.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 04:54
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I don't know what group Bob Brown was closer to
Bob was very close to his friends, so much so he just could not leave his friend's behind.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 06:11
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Very interesting post and I think you are correct.

We call the first group the $100,000 a year Greenies.
They earn $100k, live inner suburbs, pay $100 to a Greeny group
and call themselves Greenie.

Would like to know Adam Bandt's thoughts - I don't like him because he is Green
but think he might be a shining light and future leader of the Greens.

Christine Milne - an oxygen thief of ever I saw one.
Two dads is in the same boat.

For thoe in Sydney, what about Clover Moore ?
Christ, what a piece of work !

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Old 21st Sep 2013, 07:17
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The ABC had to go all the way to London to interview some stuffed shirt who disapproved of the sacking of that leech Flannery. Couldn't find anyone in Australia because - oh that's right - we voted those idiots out!!!
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 08:33
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I love the Indonesians, again saying that the Coalition policies on boats are offensive to them. What about their policy of letting every person that arrives by air into Jakarta, with a boat ticket and a Centrelink form, have free passage to Australia in the next departing boat? I find that policy pretty offensive.

I also find the policy of paying them millions a year in aid, pretty offensive. Why don't we change that policy as well?
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 12:07
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With any luck the new Oz govt won't blink and the Indons will realise playing the offended victim card is a non starter.

To be a fly on the wall when they figure that one out would be sublime...
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 13:56
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Speaking of offensive, I've just watched on 'ABC iView' which is an ABC TV catch-up app for those who aren't aware of it, a 10 minute programme called The Roast.

Watching it, you might assume that either Pol Pot or the Nazis had seized power in Australia rather than had a popularly elected government replaced a patently incompetent one. The episode comprised a series of gratuitous, insulting smears of the incoming Coalition government, with special attention to Tony Abbott's unfitness for his office.

All it did for me was confirm my decision to stop watching and listening to our joke of a national broadcaster, and to write to them in very reasonable terms explaining why I have done so. I hope they consider that one letter of complaint equals 100 or whatever disgruntled punters, because I'm sure it does.
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 16:43
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All is well in the world. A competent government installed and to cap it all the Dockers are in the finals! Yay!!!
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Old 21st Sep 2013, 21:18
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How is it the Left gets control of public broadcasting? It's the same here in the States.
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