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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 7th Sep 2013, 22:16
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FAO Australia

Check your PMs.
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Old 7th Sep 2013, 22:31
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Sarah TwoDads. Did she survive?
At 0745 this morning, the story seem to be that she won't. We can but hope that this continues to be the case.

Nick Xenephon has again received enormous support, and may even get his running mate into the senate. Labor looks like loosing one senator from SA, unfortunately it's not the previous minister for finance who has the #1 spot.

Senate counting is tricky - it will probably take a few days for the picture to sharpen. We had 73 to choose from - I know other states had even more.

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Old 7th Sep 2013, 22:51
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What about Kneebone, the "Captains Pick" ?

Did she get in ?


I see the Greens have lost a bit of their influence
although I'll admit, Brandt did very well, better than
predicted.

I think you have the makings of a future Greens leader in him.
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Old 7th Sep 2013, 23:19
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Alfred E Neumann would be an improvement on Milne or TwoDads.
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Old 7th Sep 2013, 23:33
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Dead right.

Milne is a wannabe, fallen into the leadership by default instead
of by being a leader. Two Dads, well, she is everything I dislike
about that type.

The Captains pick got in. I hope he performs, it will be a slight
on her if she doesn't.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 00:09
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From that most curious of provinces, north of the Tweed, PUP appears to have successfully put The Brick With Eyes into the Senate! Queensland, QUEENSLAND, HE PLAYED FOR NEW SOUTH WALES!!!!
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 00:24
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I watched the results come in on Channel Nine and could not believe the number of negative remarks that were twittered when it became obvious that Labour had lost, about one in five only were positive comments.

This leads me to wonder, do only morons t w i t t e r on Ch9 during election results?

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Old 8th Sep 2013, 00:31
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Parabellum? Yes.
From that most curious of provinces, north of the Tweed, PUP appears to have successfully put The Brick With Eyes into the Senate! Queensland, QUEENSLAND, HE PLAYED FOR NEW SOUTH WALES!!!!
He played though. Actually I'm surprised at the level of support for Palmer,but he must have done something right.
Alfred E Neumann would be an improvement on Milne or TwoDads.
A hairy nosed wombat would be an improvement . They're moronic even by Green standards. If comrade SHY loses her seat it will be one of the few bright spots of the election.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 00:42
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I will be running a book on how long before all the current crowing turns to whinging. Odds are pretty good for ten to twelve weeks, although there's a significant interest in six months.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 01:43
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Depends on the date. In case you forgot the Murdoch press propelled Krudd the Dud into power in 2007.
Number one son was born the day before the 2007 election, have a Murdoch paper from that day extolling the virtues of Kevin 07. It would appear Mr Murdoch just like to be on a winner, doesn't really matter who they play for, just so long as he sells papers/digital subscriptions...
PUP appears to have successfully put The Brick With Eyes into the Senate! Queensland, QUEENSLAND, HE PLAYED FOR NEW SOUTH WALES!!!!
And we've been hopeless since he retired!

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Old 8th Sep 2013, 01:57
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Odds are pretty good for ten to twelve weeks
alisoncc, I give myself two weeks tops.

Good to see that Bolt and his panelists this morning (including two Labor men, De Costa and Mundine) pointed out Rudd/Hawker's blatant attempt to re-write history with that 'curious' concession speech. I thought "my fellow Australians" in Goughspeak was a step too far.

Bolt and his panelists also pointed out Rudd's very poor taste crack about his Liberal opponent. The man remains what he's always been, a tool and a fake, and no amount of Labor-leaning revisionist "history" with gainsay that.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 02:21
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Abbotts not a tool, tools are useful,
I suppose those Libs were double voting again, can't trust them
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 02:35
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We're better off without Rudd even in the political system, although his type will always be there.

The truth will come out eventually about Rudd's scheming, frauds and lies.

Abbott, by contrast, is a decent bloke. Just the man for the job. Abbott’s biographers will find that, despite his degrees in law and economics, his years at Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship, and his years in a seminary, he has never aspired to be anything other than decent

Parliamentary maiden speeches must be the definition of gloss and optimism, but they do also indicate character. Even if you don't share Abbott's Christian faith, it's clear he's either a good man or a shameless liar.

When he made his maiden speech to Parliament on May 31, 1994, Abbott began: “On the corner of Castlereagh and Hunter streets in Sydney stands a monument to mark the site of the first Christian service in Australia. The preacher, the Reverend Richard Johnson, took as his text: ‘’What shall I render unto the Lord for all his benefits towards me?

“It is just a small stone obelisk hardly noticed by the thousands of passers-by and dwarfed by skyscrapers, yet its message of faith and hope is fundamental to our nation’s success and the key to Australia’s future.

“The congregation at that first service was poorer, sicker, and less trained than any conceivable group of modern Australians, yet there was nothing small about what they were to achieve. Our challenge, 200 years later, is to have hearts that are just as big. So at this opening of my time in parliament, I place on record my deep conviction that, nourished by the past and inspired by our great ideals, there is no limit to what Australia can achieve. Also, I want to record my deep conviction that our Australian story should fill our hearts with pride and our eyes with tears.

“It is a story of the dispossessed and the outcast, redeemed through the innate goodness of humanity - a society challenged by nature, tested by war, enlarged by other cultures and blessed by such peace, prosperity and tolerance that we are now the envy of the Earth.”

When Rudd made his maiden speech four years later, on November 11, 1998, he said bluntly: “Politics is about power."

It's early days yet, and politics is a practical rather than idealistic business, but I'm looking forward to better days ahead, and particularly to feeling more pride in my country and more respect for the people who manage it.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 03:08
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So at 11.00 am WST, does anyone have an update on the fate of Two Dads?

And in other news, it's just been reported here that 30 Iranian country shoppers have decided there is no place like home and have asked to return to Tehran.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 03:41
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Abbott, by contrast, is a decent bloke. Just the man for the job. Abbott’s biographers will find that, despite his degrees in law and economics, his years at Oxford on a Rhodes scholarship, and his years in a seminary, he has never aspired to be anything other than decent
Sadly, 'decent' could become an Achilles heel.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 04:54
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Now that the Coalition has won office, I wonder what the right wing shock jocks and scribblers like Jones, Hadley, Price, Bolt, Akerman, Albechtson and fellow travellers will rail against? To whom will they now direct their bilious opinions?

It would be so good to have a balanced and objective media that actually reports the news rather than one that forces its opinion and interpretation of the news. A good start would be to get rid of talk-back radio in all of its forms.


...standing by for incoming!
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 05:24
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Ken, have you ever listened to Hadley on 2GB since the Libs took over at State level in NSW? He (and the other presenters, including, I'm told, Jones - I wouldn't know, because I can't handle listening to him) have given them more than a hard time when they consider they aren't delivering the goods. That's what shock jocks do. It's what the regulars here will do if CFI (a big thank you from me too, CFI) and the site owners allow this or a similar thread to continue.

I for one am sure that Tony Abbott will do some things that I will disagree with, (or, if, as someone who doesn't lower himself to listen to commercial radio, you'd prefer "up with which I will disagree.")
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 05:37
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Andu,

I refuse to listen to those who SHOUT at me! So, I won't have the dubious pleasure of Hadley haranguing the NSW Govt except when I visit my friendly green-grocer.

I hope TA makes a good fist of his privilege as he now has plenty of good-will behind him. I think his biggest challenge will be to hose down some of the more right wing members of his flock. Apart from the xenophobic, I think most thinking Australians would like to see an even handed administration but they also realise that TA has some debts to acquit.

Love your use of English - it seems that you were learnt to talk and write proper!
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 05:42
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TA and the other Liberals will know that they don't have that much of a lead that means they can walk over everybody and then Labor would win in 4 years.

If TA can fix the economy and people feel more secure, that will go a long way.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 06:55
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The main election issues were ........... how to reduce the number of migrants arriving from Asia by boat.
......."Scrapping the carbon tax and stopping the boats are the two most urgent priorities," Mr Abbott said.


"Obviously, we will swiftly implement Operation Sovereign Borders and one component is a much more active programme of intercepting vessels and where possible turning them around - rather than escorting them to Christmas Island."
Good on the Aussies for electing a PM who is sensible, or as he will now be branded by some, racist, for wanting to concentrate on this. No country should be the receptacle for other countries' problems, and this is something the useless UN hot air shop should be dealing with and tackling at source.

Let's hope the rest of the world wakes up this soon. Meantime, I wish could emigrate to Oz!
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