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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 28th Aug 2013, 02:08
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"I look at the headlines, see they want me to pay, and then go elsewhere."


For the Herald Sun, I cut and paste the headline into Google
and then read the article in one of the other newspapers.

With the Age, I either stop the page loading before the overlay
comes up telling me I have read my monthly quota of articles
or I just go to the SMH, Brisbane Times or WA Today and
read the article there.

At this stage i am not paying to read them.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 09:07
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Fair enough Andu.
So far I think the modern Justices of the High Court have managed to leave their politics to one side and consider the law. This is often to the dismay of the government of the day, which is a good thing.

The day the High Court becomes a tool of the government is the day democracy in Australia can pack up and go home, so despite some fairly obvious political appointments (from both sides) we should be grateful that those Justices have not played along and kowtowed. Of course once a lawyer gets that competent they're probably too smart to listen to a bunch of half-baked pollies...

We're also lucky that there are seven of them and the federal government usually changes frequently enough that both sides get a crack at the appointments.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 09:40
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Seeking one word to describe Rudd's performance at the Rooty Hill debate tonight, 'petulant' was the one that came to mind.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 10:08
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Being played for suckers again?

Official communique from AMSA just now:

PAN PAN
FM RCC AUSTRALIA 280606Z AUG 2013 AUSSAR 2013/5809
CHART AUS 4708 AUSTRALIA WEST COAST AND INDONESIA
ASYLUM SEEKER VESSEL WITH 55 PERSONS ON BOARD IN POSITION 07-03.73S 105-05.63E AT 280430UTC AUG 2013 ENCOUNTERING HEAVY SEAS AND REQUESTS ASSISTANCE. VESSELS WITHIN 30NM OF POSITION ARE REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN LOOKOUT, PROVIDE ASSISTANCE AS NECESSARY AND REPORT SIGHTINGS TO RCC AUSTRALIA VIA TELEPHONE +61262306811INMARSAT THROUGH LES BURUM (POR 212,IOR 312), SPECIAL ACCESS CODE (SAC) 39, HF DSC 005030001, EMAIL:[email protected] OR BY FAX +61262306868.
NNNN
That location is only 30km from the West Java coast, but of course WE are expected to come to the rescue.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 10:23
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Beat me by 5 minutes, Ovation. They age only 30ks from Java, for gods sake. Why are we even worrying about them? They could almost swim back to the beach from there. Give me strength.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 10:40
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Wasn't there a poster here by the name of Pan Pan Yourself?
I didn't see it, but Rudd's always had a tendency towards petulance so I'm not surprised. One of the many Labor leakers was quoted the other day basically saying that Rudd needed external reinforcement from the press and couldn't function without it. Maybe that's the problem, because either way he's looking and sounding really unbalanced recently...

It would be really nice if one day Queensland could produce a pollie who doesn't froth at the mouth.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 10:46
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If the RAN brings the country shoppers to Christmas Island from this boat, all pretence has been abandoned - our naval forces are under orders from this government to facilitate a tacit invasion of this country by self-selected "immigrants".
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 11:05
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And those chemically enhanced people that have been arriving, are they some sort of special forces? Maybe some of the real loonie left and the watermelons have a plan for an uprising after Sep 7th. I would put nothing past these idiots.

And Kev is certainly starting to look somewhat unbalanced. I think if he does not have constant adulation, it tips him out of his tree. About 9.00pm on the 7th could be interesting!
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 11:17
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God I can't wait for this to be over.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 12:00
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The journos gave tonight's debate 45 Rudd to 38 Abbott so Abbott probably won in a landslide! The bits I saw Abbott held his own and Rudd was flustered.

In 2007 the MSM wanted Howard out and used the Tampa, kids overboard and any other muck they could rake up to sway public opinion, completely ignoring the strong economic position we were in then. Now, the same MSM have had six years to realise they were wrong and are determined it won't happen again, Rudd just can't see this, he still thinks people like him.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 12:47
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For me the stars are aligning for the wife and I to move to Australia. We were going to split time between the American South and Adelaide (at this point probably Glenelg). But now that the Aussie dollar has come down from the stratosphere, my mandatory retirement is 33 months away (though I'm continually tempted to walk before then), and the American people seem increasingly committed to decline, I think we're going to make a lock, stock and barrel move to OZ.

We can always move again, pretty much when and where we want, and why maintain two households?

Australia's imminent election of conservative government is icing on the cake.

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Old 28th Aug 2013, 13:27
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The ABC seem to be making a positive move against Rudd - he appeared to take a hammering on the news, 7.30 Report, Gruen and, probably les so on Hamster. But they have plenty of material to work with. But they can't help having a bob each way by having a go at Murdoch.

And welcome to our time zone Ben There
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 13:36
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Off politics for one moment.

Adelaide.... Hmmmm... I assume it's the trouble and strife's home town, BenThere? How familiar are you with the town? Not many Australians are.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 13:49
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Do you think Ben There is coming by boat?
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 14:37
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Did anyone bother to check those GPS coordinates? Unbe-fking-lievable!
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 15:32
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Yes, like I said Buster, they could almost swim back to the beach from where they are. I really hope this madness ends soon.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 15:41
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How familiar are you with the town?
I spent a month there in last year.

Played a little cricket and Aussie Rules at my brother in law's local club. I helped him make a batch of home brew, had some good beach time, and overall liked it quite a bit. I really like my in-laws, and I have four nephews and a niece hitting adulthood. I can function there as well as here I think.

Now that prices are getting more reasonable since my retirement is paid in USD, we'll do just fine.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 18:35
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Had to laugh at rhe headline in the Herald Sun

"Is it too late to bring back Julia?"

"KEY Labor figures are openly questioning whether Julia Gillard would have
done a better job than Kevin Rudd, as panic rises over their faltering campaign."


Hey guys, it's a bit fukcing late for that !!!

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Old 28th Aug 2013, 21:27
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You couldn't make this up.

After the third debate, which the MSM pronounces that Kevin won, his campaign bus wouldn't start, (perhaps the driver flattened the battery listening to the debate???).... so Kev's bus required a jump start.

....from Tony Abbott's campaign bus.

The implied message in that could not be lost, even on the most rusted-on Labarite - like those supposedly 'undecided voters' who came out of last night's debate declaring Rudd the whiner. Sorry, the winner.

As I said, you couldn't make it up.



The killer comment of the night, in my opinion at least, was the bloke, (for 'bloke' he was), who mentioned how it doesn't sell well when the fork lift driver from Mount Druitt has to pay for some 'pretty lady lawyer from the Northern Suburbs when she decides to have a baby'. As the bloke himself said, that's not an accurate assessment, but perception is everything, and that's how it's undoubtedly perceived in places like Mt Druitt.

If they're going to stick with the Paid Parental Leave scheme, (as they undoubtedly are), I can't understand why Abbott and the Liberals aren't pushing the point strongly and repeatedly that they're just offering to those women in private enterprise what's already an entitlement for women in the Public Service - oh, and parliamentarians, two of whom, both Labor, have had maternity leave on full pay (one a Minister), since 2007. (Before someone leaps to Tanya Pillsberserk's (sic) defence, I know she took only three weeks off. The other one took six months.)

Abbott has mishandled selling the PPL to the electorate to an incredible degree, giving Labor what amounts to a free kick, which they have exploited to the fullest. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.
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Old 28th Aug 2013, 23:12
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Australia's imminent election of conservative government is icing on the cake.
When the government swings back to Labor will you be moving out again?
Seriously, welcome and hope it all goes well. When it gets freezing cold down there it's time to visit sunny Queensland.

"Is it too late to bring back Julia?"
No. It's time to get rid of both of them, along with a whole bunch of other self serving professional pollies infesting the federal ALP. A bit less spin and a lot more integrity would be appreciated by the party's long suffering supporters. The past three years have been a debacle.

I think one of Abbott's problems with the PPL is that a lot of his own people don't support it. It's basically a Labor style policy dressed up as conservatism. I think he's honestly keen on it, but it's hardly big L Liberal.

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