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Old 14th Jul 2013, 00:48
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And now the Libs have come out with cloned American-style attack ads targeting Krudd. Every time I've been in the US and heard this type of ad, I've cringed. They're bloody awful, so why in the world are the Libs using them here? All they need to do is play a succession of clips of senior Labor Pardee politicians saying what THEY think of Krudd and leave it at that. These US-style attack ads are a misreading of Australians, a bit like too many of the John McTernan brainwaves were for Labar.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 00:53
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I see that Krudd is getting rid of the Carbon Tax.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 01:13
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Gee I bet Juliar wished she had had Krudd's meedja advisors instead of the despicable McTernan.
Dunno how Krudd's meedja gurus are doing it, but they have the MSM unquestionably eating out their hands like well trained dogs.
On a slightly different topic, is it not the height of irony that Krudd is now pushing for a procedure whereby a 75% majority is required for the Liabour Pardee to depose a PM?
It's all about Kevvi, isn't it?

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 01:17
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It's all about saying what everyone wants to hear: scrap the carbon tax, turn back the boats, reform the nasty 'faceless men' system etc etc. It's not about action. If he gets back in () then none of this will happen or will be quietly reversed.

St Kevin is all about spin and being seen to be a "man of action". The guy is a maggot.

If he gets back in then how long is it going to be before the country wakes up and says "Oh fu*k, we were suckered again!"
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 01:26
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"The guy is a maggot."

I was thinking he looks more like a Witchetty Grub !

White body, golden head
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 01:59
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Gee I bet Juliar wished she had had Krudd's meedja advisors instead of the despicable McTernan.
I think Kevvy's main media advisor is Kevvy, and he's good at it. More spin than a washing machine, but it's working at the moment. Kevvy's many faults notwithstanding, at least the Libs have become considerably less smug about certain victory.
And now the Libs have come out with cloned American-style attack ads targeting Krudd.
Maybe McTernan's got a new job. He'd have to find similar employment with a similar employer to keep his 457, and there are only so many political parties...

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Old 14th Jul 2013, 02:00
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To complete the North Koreanization of this once fair land, how long before the daughter - or the #### son - gets parachuted into a safe Labor seat?
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 03:30
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To complete the North Koreanization of this once fair land, how long before the daughter - or the #### son - gets parachuted into a safe Labor seat?
Heh, well at least it wont be the sister..







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Old 14th Jul 2013, 03:34
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I think Kevin Rudd will - if he hasn't already - achieve one thing in his second go as PM. He will make quite a few people think that Julia Gillard wasn't all that bad after all.

That's quite an achievement, when you think of it.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 04:36
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To complete the North Koreanization of this once fair land, how long before the daughter - or the #### son - gets parachuted into a safe Labor seat?
From The Strayian of 13 Jul:

KEVIN Rudd's eldest son has been appointed to a senior role on Labor's election campaign team.
Nicholas Rudd, 24, will act as a key adviser to his father and be a member of the Prime Minister's travelling party.
News Limited reports that Nicholas Rudd, a lawyer, was involved in drafting of the reforms of the Labor Party that the Prime Minister announced on Monday.
It says the younger Rudd has quickly become a valuable member of the team and his contribution is being seen as "impressive".
"He is very smart, and is of enormous value to us, for many reasons," one senior insider said.
Mr Rudd said his son, who has just finished three years working with Clayton Utz in commercial arbitration, would play a major role in the government's election campaign.

"He is smart. And was employed on his merits", the Prime Minister said.
"Employed on his merits"......sure he was Kev.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 06:57
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Surely there is great merit in being the son of the Emperor.

Memo to the meeja. I'd still like to know what the government is actually doing while the circus is in town.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 11:37
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So the carbon tax is going...I thought they told us that this was a tax Australia had to have.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 12:26
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Labor now insults us daily with a bombardment of advertising about just about every service provided by government.
A cynical final blast with OUR money pushing their electoral hopes.
These wankers need to be sent to purgatory, forget into opposition.
The carbon tax gone bullsh1t, it will be rehashed as an ETS, same wolf
different fur, just how stupid are the labor voters.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 12:59
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I find myself hoping that those adoring fans always to be seen at every Kevni photo op are hired Labor stooge squads shipped in to give the appearance that there are actually people out there in voter land thick enough to be falling for his patently fake promises.

Unfortunately, I think I might be wrong, at least in some cases - there actually are people out there who are that stupid.

The man's 100% in one aspect - he's 100% fake.
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Old 14th Jul 2013, 23:53
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Two polls now showing a 50/50 score in 2PP. I was called by Labor Party pollsters a couple of weeks ago (immediately before Julia Gillard's demise) and lied outrageously in every answer I gave them. (The last thing I wanted to do was assist them in coming to a sensible decision about the issue of the day, which was ditching JEG.) I can only hope there are many others out there giving Labor a false sense of security with their answers to the current polls, for if these polls are accurate, I despair for my country and the IQ of 50% of those taking part in them.

The question they should put in these polls is: "If you were buying or selling a house, would you employ Kevin Rudd or any of those working for him as your agent?" Then again, maybe that wouldn't work, because buying a house would be a totally foreign concept to most people who think Kevin Rudd is "great".
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 00:18
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I see a few media reports around saying although Rudd is enjoying his
second honeymoon, he doesn't quite have enough of everything to
make it across the line on election day.

"Some of his key advisers think this is probably his peak and are telling him to call an election as soon as possible."

An interesting opinion article for those that want to read it.
Labor looking good but still short of a win
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 01:59
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Not sure I agree with the commentators 500N.

I reckon the "Peoples' PM" could well be in front at the moment.

It's probably just me but the Lib campaign just ain't cutting the mustard so far. They've used the wrong voice on those Rudd ads, for starters.

Seems they have plenty of ammo for their MPG - but the barrel's so worn the rounds are going everywhere except where they should be.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 02:15
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We will see. I am a bit out of it to really get a feel but the way
the media are showing everybody crawling all over him, it's
like he's a rock star

I've always said that the polls this week and next are what I will be looking at
because Rudd has had his sweep of the broom so that is what I will be looking at.

One comment in a media article, Any opposition leader who has won an election has always done so from a popular position and Abbott is in the negative ! Read into that what you may.

Another article from the Sydney Morning Herald

Now, who can run the best campaign?

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Old 15th Jul 2013, 02:17
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Fubaar bet you to it, Cooda, with his post on the previous page.

And now the Libs have come out with cloned American-style attack ads targeting Krudd. Every time I've been in the US and heard this type of ad, I've cringed. They're bloody awful, so why in the world are the Libs using them here? All they need to do is play a succession of clips of senior Labor Pardee politicians saying what THEY think of Krudd and leave it at that. These US-style attack ads are a misreading of Australians, a bit like too many of the John McTernan brainwaves were for Labar.
I find myself agreeing with both 101%. Are we seeing history about to repeat itself and the Libs lose yet another unlosable election? Surely six years of hard Labor is enough punishment for any crime we as a nation may have committed anytime in the past.
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Old 15th Jul 2013, 02:43
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Agreed. In your face negative, personal attacks do not work.

I think the approach the libs are trying to take is valid - but the execution is lacking.

What is needed is some subtlety.

Perhaps we should design one for them.

Cue (female) voice:

"In 2007, Kevin Rudd and Labor convinced 75% of us that he had all the answers.
He would be a fiscal conservative and not waste our taxes, he would keep the boats away, he would engage with all Australians and govern for all of us.
We believed him. We trusted him. But look what happened.
He held talkfests that achieved nothing but more publicity for Kevin.
He took the surplus he inherited from the liberals and wasted it on programs that achieved nothing.
He started borrowing heavily.
He rushed out the Pink Batts Program that killed four young men, destroyed hundreds of houses and shattered the insulation industry.
He rushed out the School Halls program that wasted billions on unnecessary or overpriced buildings.
He dismantled the successful border protection the liberals had established and encouraged tens of thousands of border hoppers to do business with people smugglers. Thousands have died as a result and those that have made it here are costing the Australian taxpayer billions of dollars.
He promised increased spending on defence but cut the defence budget.
In 2 1/2 years he proved so dangerous to our country that fewer than 30% of voters still supported him and his own colleagues stepped in and removed him.
We all know how that turned out. If anything, Labor was even worse under Julia Gillard.
This election, remember the Rudd Labor promises of 2007. Then remember the reality of six years hard labor.
Don't be fooled twice."

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