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War in Australia (any Oz Politics): the Original

Old 9th Jul 2013, 05:14
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Interesting that Mr abbs had to pay back $ 10000.00 in lieu of misused expenses. Slippy only misused $1000.00.
Also what's this claiming govt expenses when you are volunteering down at the local fire brigade, is it poo and fan time?
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 05:17
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is it poo and fan time?
Nope. It's an old old story. It was dealt with at the time. If anyone is to blame it's his staff.

Just another beat up by the true believers who have recently become emboldened enough to crawl out from under the rock where they've been hiding for the past 4 years or so.
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 06:11
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Kevin Rudd now goes after Julia Gillard’s “captain’s pick”:

KEVIN Rudd has signalled he will re-examine Julia Gillard’s ‘’captain’s pick’’ of Nova Peris as Labor’s NT Senate candidate and gauge local feelings about the move during his Darwin visit…

‘’I’ll be talking to the local branch about this question when I get up there and I will be talking to locals as well,” Mr Rudd told 104.9FM radio.

If Gillard can appoint, then Rudd can surely unappoint and hand control back to the local members. But note: the Labor Party is very swiftly becoming the Rudd Party, running not just against Tony Abbott but Labor.
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KEVIN Rudd has signalled he will re-examine Julia Gillard's ''captain's pick'' of Nova Peris as Labor's NT Senate candidate and gauge local feelings about the move during his Darwin visit.

The Prime Minister's move follows his intention announced yesterday to strip factional powerbrokers of control over the Labor leadership, handing party branch members and MPs equal power to elect the leader and ministry.
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 23:49
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Ah well, Rudd's spoken to "some locals" and is endorsing Peris.

This will come as a disappointment to a lot more, labor-leaning locals; so interesting days ahead.

It's also interesting to see some respected media commentators assuming that Rudd's reform proposals are a fait accompli.

Unless they are formally adopted before the election, I would expect them to be modified or shelved afterwards; along with a lot of other Rudd promises.

When I observe the public reaction to Rudd's return, I am reminded of the character of Foxy Loxy in the story of Chicken Little; herding a bunch of flapping chooks for his own benefit.

Abbott is not helping things along either - but is Turnbull really the answer?
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Old 9th Jul 2013, 23:57
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"Ah well, Rudd's spoken to "some locals" and is endorsing Peris."

Did you expect anything less ?

As soon as I saw the comment that he was going to talk to
the locals I knew what the outcome would be !

Black trumps form, function and track record up there.

It's just the way it is, racism prevails, blacks before whitey's !

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Old 10th Jul 2013, 01:24
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Ah yes but the party has three aboriginal former local Ministers who could have done a better job than Nova.

Marion Scrimegour, for example, is in the history books as the first female, Aboriginal Deputy (and acting) Chief Minister.

Nova has spent most of the past couple of decades out of the Territory, hobnobbing with the Emily's Listers.

The southern interference will work against her at the polls - but probably not enough to influence the outcome as the Great One himself has now spoken.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 01:34
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Agree absolutely. Plenty of NT Blacks who could have stood for the job,
no two ways about it.

I just could never see why Julia needed to parachute someone
from down south into the job. The only thing she has going
for her is name recognition (and being black) !

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Old 10th Jul 2013, 07:10
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Three more boat arrivals announced today. (Earlier, it was announced that the average of arrivals has reached three boats every two days.)

Also announced that the cost of illegal immigration has 'blown out' by ANOTHER one billion dollars.

Also announced that the asylum seekers who jumped into the water - some 280km from Christmas Island (therefore, not very far at all from Java) have been brought today to Christmas Island.


You couldn't put this into a fantasy novel - you'd be laughed out of the editor's office.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 07:19
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"Also announced that the asylum seekers who jumped into the water - some 280km from Christmas Island (therefore, not very far at all from Java)"

A bit of blood and guts as berley off the back of the boat
would have worked wonders
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 08:05
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500n and Worrals,

With regard to the attacks on the paramedics in Melbourne. I have a very close personal interest in this case (check my profile and you will see how).

I will PM you with the exact details.

I can tell you for certain that the offenders were from a culture that has little respect for anyone in uniform and one, who via our generous welfare system, had an overblown sense of self entitlement . Ambulance in Victoria is free to pensioners, low income earners and refugees. The mother of the aggressors had a laceration to her elbow , not her head as reported, was ambulant and perfectly capable of being driven to a nearby hospital by the same thugs who managed to pile out of a vehicle and threaten the paramedics concerned.

Trust me , there are certain ethnicities, who figure very highly in the number of asylum seekers, that I am very wary of dealing with in the emotionally charged setting of a medical "emergency".

It is a very bad direction that this country is taking and it has come to us thanks to K'rudds dismantling of a very effective policy that kept these socially dysfunctional people from jumping the queue and settling here.

From someone at the coalface it is a national disgrace.

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Old 10th Jul 2013, 08:36
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priapism, further to your post, I think the huge - and I mean HUGE - mistake made by the Sarah Hanson-hyphens (and the Kevin Rudds) of this world is that the people, particularly the males, from that culture we all steer so carefully from naming here will be grateful for the support given them (and let's call it what it is - appeasement ) - to their every demand.

Nothing could be further from the truth. They look upon any leeway given them as weakness, weakness to be exploited to the fullest.

In short, they despise us. "Aussie" is a term that to them, equates to what, in the days before Political Correctness, 'spic' or 'wog' did with many if not most in mainstream Australia.

They enter the country by blatantly breaking our laws. How can we expect them to have any respect for - or to obey - any other law of the land?

And it's not just those who have arrived here by boat over the last few years. Read Tim Priest's book about the criminal families who came here as 'refugees' back in the Fraser years. They arrived here openly flouting the law and screaming discrimination the moment any action was attempted against them. Attempted being the operative word, because the PC bunnies, even then, hobbled the police to such a degree that they were unable to do a damned thing about these criminal families.

And the sons and grandsons of these people, all Australian citizens BY BIRTH, are every bit as bad as their parents and grandparents, some of them now running the so-called 'Nike' bikie gangs of south west Sydney and Melbourne.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 09:45
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Yes, I can well imagine.

I travel widely in Melb and Oz plus other jobs (busting shoplifters !)
in the past plus Mil experience, I have seen most cultures first hand
and agree, some just reckon they are entitled.

Why can't they be like the Wogs (term of affection !) of the 50's, 60's, 70's and
80's who generally integrated, worked hard and generally fitted in and enriched
Melbournes Culture. Yes, you had a few bad one's but you do in all cultures
but most were good.

I am partially surrounded by them where I live, Western Suburbs.
I've ranged in various places of religion for future reference !!!

The fat lady Police Commissioner didn't help at all because she empowered them IMHO. Excuse the term I used but she really was a piece of work for someone who was supposed to "command". IMHO she needed to be charged with leaving her post but she didn't see it that was because she said she had delegated. So what ????

Anyway, rant over
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 10:42
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You think she was bad from the outside? Try working for her......
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 13:19
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With some of the people that are coming, I am deeply deeply worried about the future of our country. And I sincerely hope that SHY and the likes of her are held to account one day.
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Old 10th Jul 2013, 13:25
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You have to be joking.

They fcuk everything up but take no responsibility and they will
say they were not in Gov't.


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She was the anti thesis of everything I was taught about leadership.
God help you having to work for her.

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Old 11th Jul 2013, 00:59
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More evidence that people smugglers have expanded their customer base from the Middle East to Africa:

NAVY and Customs officers are concerned that people smugglers may have trialled a crewless boat after Border Protection Command was forced to rescue more than 100 Sudanese asylum-seekers in international waters who claimed they were put into the Java sea for Christmas Island with only a GPS to guide them.

There is no shortage of North Africans keen to join the procession to our welfare paradise, and there will be even more as Egypt collapses.

Note a couple of other details which shows how feeble Labor’s response is to what is clearly (what the Press Council says I cannot call) illegal immigration.

First, these boat people were rescued by Australia’s navy from an Indonesian boat in Indonesia’s search and rescue territory just 40 nautical miles off Java (and still 110 from Christmas Island). It was rescued as Prime Minister Kevin Rudd was sitting with Indonesia’s President Yudhoyono, offering him another $60 million in aid. Yet Indonesia’s navy did not intercept the boat and Rudd did not ask Yudhoyono - as he offered him millions in aid - whether Indonesia in exchange could at least take back the boat people we were at that moment picking up.

UPDATE

Tired of waiting for permission to emigrate to Australia? Can’t meet the entry requirements? Can’t prove you’re employable?

Never mind! There is now a wide open door out the back:

Senator Carr said asylum seeker numbers had spiked and 20 per cent of Australia’s immigrants now arrive courtesy of people smugglers.
How long before the first bulk carrier carrying a couple of thousand Syrians to pulls up in Fremantle Harbour?
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 01:03
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WTF are we doing "First, these boat people were rescued by Australia’s navy from an Indonesian boat in Indonesia’s search and rescue territory just 40 nautical miles off Java (and still 110 from Christmas Island)."

Haven't we got enough coast and sea to cover already without
taking over Indonesia's area ?
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 02:58
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This morning on ABC 720 Perth - Jenny Macklin extolling the "benefits" of the Disability Scheme:

"We have already opened offices in x, y, z etc and, as soon as WA signs up offices will be opened here as well"

So the money is being spent on bureaucracy eh Jenny?

"The places I have just mentioned are not a 'trial' - this is the beginning of the rollout"

So how come the statements from your government say that the scheme starts in 2018?


"While people over 65 are not covered they will have their needs taken care of either through the medicare or the aged care system"

So why do we need a separate scheme when the present schemes appear to cater for present circumstances? Not about creating more bureaucracy and Federal control is it Jenny?

Questions that I would have asked had I not been driving:

"You still on speaking terms with Gillard Jenny??"

"Why do you seem to be the worst offender, even worse that Gillard, at pronouncing t's as d's?

"Why do you look like one of those scary dolls in horror movies?"
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 03:39
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He was given a pretty soft ride by the MSM, and allowed to duck the one question that should have embarrassed him - Trish Crossin's (but no mention of Simon Crean's) taxpayer-funded holiday.

It saddens me to say it, but he could pull this off. The one huge plus he has going for him, despite how bad he was during his earlier time as PM, is that he isn't Julia Gillard. I for one would not have been able to sit through Gillard making the speech he just made, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

Am I the only one to notice how often he slips in the phrase "when I was Prime Minister" at every opportunity?

'Flim flam' is the phrase that comes to mind.
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Old 11th Jul 2013, 04:22
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"It saddens me to say it, but he could pull this off."

I also hate to say it but he might just do it.
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