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Old 15th Oct 2013, 00:04
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And a totally predictable piece of news on the Michael Smith site.

A FILE detailing Julia Gillard’s role in helping set up a union slush fund from which her former boyfriend stole hundreds of thousands of dollars has disappeared.

Law firm Slater & Gordon yesterday said it could find no documents relating to the work done by Ms Gillard — a former salaried partner of the firm — in establishing the Australian Workers Union Workplace Reform Association in 1992.

Police believe the association was used by Ms Gillard’s former boyfriend and senior AWU official Bruce Wilson to steal more than $400,000, including about $100,000 which helped fund the purchase of a Fitzroy unit bought with Ms Gillard’s professional assistance.

Slater & Gordon managing director Andrew Grech told The Age last night that the firm had not been able to locate any documents relating to the controversial transaction. ‘‘We have not been able to identify any such documents following extensive searches of our archival records,’’ Mr Grech said.

‘‘If there are such documents, we don’t have them. They could have been misplaced, or lost. I simply don’t know.’’

We know that the file was present at Ms Gillard's departure interview on 11 September, 1995.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 01:35
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Shock horror, an article criticizing Abbott !!!

Well, for those that said we would not highlight when criticism of Abbott came about, here is an article from the Age.

I'll let you read it.

At least someone is calling him on an issue.


"Our Prime Minister needs to think before opening his mouth, both here and abroad."

Abbott walking tricky tightrope on diplomacy
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 04:34
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"And one other criticism of Abbott. He needs to rein in his underlings who are bellicose about a double-dissolution election over carbon pricing."

+ 1

I couldn't believe that was said when I read it.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 06:14
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Does anyone else see the new strategy emerging re Asylum seekers ?

ANOTHER Article within a week re AS by the UN High Commission for Refugees.

The bleeding hearts are in full swing making "everyone go on a guilt trip"
and trying to shame the Gov't.

Time to shut them down for good, close the office and cut funding and kick the bleeding hearts out.

"The federal government has sent a second pregnant asylum seeker to Nauru's immigration detention centre, the United Nation's refugee agency says. The UN High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) spokeswoman told AAP a 30-year-old woman of Rohingya origin is seven months pregnant with twins and is in detention along with her husband and two children."
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 12:08
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From the article;
No one in Jakarta forgets how Canberra turned on Indonesia in 1999 and, as they see it, set out to humiliate them over East Timor.
Good.

The second biggest cheer from the stadium at the 2000 Sydney Olympics was for the independent atheletes from the province of East Timor. While the biggest cheer was reserved for the Aussies (of course ) I still remember vividly that the four guys from Timor Leste got a massive round of applause, and didn't the Indons look snakey .

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 12:28
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"No one in Jakarta forgets how Canberra turned on Indonesia in 1999 and, as they see it, set out to humiliate them over East Timor."


Then it partly makes up for Australia turning a blind eye to the original invasions
and the killing of the Balibo Five !
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 12:41
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Younger people here might not know that the President of Indonesia travelled to Townsville (of all places) to meet with Gough Whitlam around late Oct early Nov 75, where Whitlam let him know Australia would have no objection to the Indonesians invading East Timor after the Portuguese withdrawal. Whitlam had been deservedly given the boot by John Kerr by the time the Indons actually invaded on (how aptly) Dec 7th, but it was Whitlam who told them Australia would look the other way.

Even the ALP didn't want an Asian Cuba on Australia's doorstep, which is exactly the way an independent Fretlin-run Timor was perceived to become with the Soviet Union still very much in place. To be fair to Whitlam, I expect Malcolm Fraser would have said exactly the same thing to the Indonesians.

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Old 15th Oct 2013, 12:49
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When were the F-111's looked at as a possible option
if a run to Indonesia was required.

I have heard rumours before, just wondering if you knew more.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 21:50
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On more than one occasion, 500N. Wish I could say more. (I've deleted three attempts to do so. Perhaps there's someone out there who feels he can.)

What I can say is that all the 'experts' who say the Trublewun was useless and a huge waste of money could not be more wrong - and the one group of people who know that for a fact ran/run a government not south east of Darwin.
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 22:08
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I have read about it as well and heard from people in the mil
when I was in.

I think it is out there, I just thought I'd ask as opposed to google.

"What I can say is that all the 'experts' who say the Trublewun was useless and a huge waste of money could not be more wrong"

Didn't the Libya bombing raid open people's eyes to the "Trublewun" ?
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Old 15th Oct 2013, 22:54
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Maxine McKew jumps on Rudd - what a turnaround

Interesting - Maxine McKew jumps on Rudd - what a turnaround.

"In a new chapter to her memoir – Tales from the Political Trenches – Ms McKew has reportedly written that Mr Rudd "went off the deep end" with some of his quick fix policies in the 2013 election campaign."


Kevin Rudd protege Maxine McKew turns on her former mentor
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 00:48
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...but it was Whitlam who told them Australia would look the other way.
I did know that, though not all the details. Many lefty types were/are very critical of that decision, even though it was made by Gough.

I'd heard similar rumours as 500N, so it sounds like you have an interesting story .As you say though, probably better not put on here, lest the men in white Falcons come and pay you a visit...
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 01:28
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Would Indonesia ever have forgiven Australia if we had flown
F111's against them, even if it was only flying one down the runway ????

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Old 16th Oct 2013, 03:47
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You couldn't make this up.

Chatting with a Darwinian recently, she told me a friend of hers on a customs boat was explaining to a well dressed and spoken “asylum seeker” that she’d probably be processed off shore.

She indignantly replied “I’ve already sent two shipping containers of furniture and a car to Sydney and that’s where I demand to go!” (Nicked this off Tim Blair's comments from 'Bluey'.)
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 04:14
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I disagree 7x7. That is the sort of hyperbolic anecdote that seems very easy to make up.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 04:25
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The thing is though, similar things have been heard numerous times,
not that containers have been sent but "I don't want to go to XYZ Island,
I want to go to Australia".

Sometimes with comments about how good it is !!!

A fair few of these AS are not poor.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 05:48
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A fair few of these AS are not poor.
It's not actually a requirement. Maybe that's why they're getting persecuted; that was certainly so for many Vietnamese refugees in the 1970s.

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Old 16th Oct 2013, 05:55
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So be it.

It doesn't excuse them from coming in via the right channels.

"that's why they're getting persecuted"


I think very few people in Aus would object to genuine refugees, AS coming in, even in maybe larger numbers if the Gov't deemed it so, IF they came in via the right channels.
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Old 16th Oct 2013, 07:20
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I think very few people in Aus would object to genuine refugees
Well put me down as one of the few. I don't wish to live with the poor and uneducated from pissant countries.

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Old 16th Oct 2013, 07:25
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Not often I find someone with more "extreme" views than me.

You might put a tin foil hat on, expect the lefties to give you a going over
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