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Old 16th Apr 2019, 13:14
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While it's sometimes ridiculous like the time I was flying skydivers at a dead quiet regional airport where ours was literally the only aeroplane there with only our own van as a ground vehicle on a sunny day. But we still had to wear hi vi's. I even had to go through security in case I hijacked myself. Another regional airport insisted on issuing boarding cards to everyone including me. Hilarious really.
But I do think there are benefits at busy airports at night with multiple vehicles. I nearly took out a couple of pilots while driving the minibus round the airport in a previous life. This was before hi vis became de rigeur. I saw them very late. Two of our flightcrew were hit and badly injured by a vehicle at an airport in Stansted too. So better visibility makes sense in those situations.

They're also good for dark rural country roads. Definite lifesaver. But in an example of daftness a police force, actually the representative organisation suggested compulsory wearing of hi vis for all cyclists and pedestrians. Yes pedestrians as in everybody. This was a serious proposal.

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Old 16th Apr 2019, 16:42
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Originally Posted by Icare9 View Post
Coming at this from a non aviation aspect, anyone driving through the continent is expected (legally, with fines) to have a hi viz vest for every occupant to hand and worn before exiting a broken down vehicle.
I haven't driven in Europe for many years (I guess before the hi vis vest rule). Where are they carried in the passenger compartment, if they have to be worn before exiting the vehicle?
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 17:38
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Anywhere within easy reach, if you can't work it out for yourself, ready to put on when out of the vehicle.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 18:58
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Originally Posted by Icare9 View Post
Anywhere within easy reach, if you can't work it out for yourself, ready to put on when out of the vehicle.
to be safe then , don before driving. If driving near rivers of canals may wear hi viz licences just killing two birds with one stone. Be sure however not to inflate the life vest before exiting the car.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 20:50
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Had a weird moment just now. In 2011 I contributed to this thread in another guise. Nothing sinister I either forgot or had quit in disgust. Said something similar but since then have suffered similar experiences.

​​​​​So some things never change or even get worse. I vote worse.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 21:21
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Funnily enough BBC news tonight shows women street cleaners in Kabul in orange hi viz cost coats.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 08:37
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It seems that I accidentally re-animated an ancient thread with a post about hi-viz. The ever vigilant moderators spotted that this had been covered before, albeit 8 years ago, and merged the threads.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 09:03
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On airport ramps we are told to wear Hi-Viz jackets to be more visible and prevent a vehicle hitting us.

OK, so far so sensible, and I do not mind wearing a Hi-Viz on the ramp. So presumably in the interests of safety, the eyesight tests for ramp drivers are very strict? Tested in low light conditions? Tested for peripheral vision? Checked at least annually?

No to all four - I know somebody who performs eyesight tests for ramp drivers. The “test” is once only and the most basic you can imagine.

So, I will be fined by some airports if my Hi-Viz vest - THAT I AM WEARING - is not done up, yet ramp drivers around me might have terrible eyesight. Genius !

At a recent safety lecture by an extremely self-important lady at a UK airport, (she introduced herself to a roomful of qualified pilots by going on and on about her own life and career and how many horses she had), the lady told us in heavily sarcastic tones how stupid two pilots had been for walking along a designated pedestrian walkway by the side of a road airside without wearing Hi-Viz jackets. The driver of a passenger coach did not see them, (??!!), and hit one of the pilots. Apparently, this was all the pilot’s fault for not wearing Hi-Viz jackets, and nothing to do with the coach driver plainly having terrible eyesight or having veered off the road onto the walkway. This is the sort of attitude we are up against.








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Old 18th Apr 2019, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Uplinker View Post
At a recent safety lecture by an extremely self-important lady at a UK airport, (she introduced herself to a roomful of qualified pilots by going on and on about her own life and career and how many horses she had),
I wonder if, as many horsey types in Lincolnshire , she wears hi-viz black or brown?

Been soundly berated by a horse leader wearing dark clothing leading one horse and a second with rider following. All near invisible on a busy unrestricted Lincolnshire C-road.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 10:01
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The safety industry (remember when it wasn't a stand-alone industry?) is populated by a most unhealthy assemblage of wannabees.

When, as an industry, they start focusing on practical application of safety principles and drop the self-aggrandisement they may start achieving some useful goals, with the cooperation of the people upon whom they shower their irrefutable greater knowledge.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 11:54
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I was recently required to wear "hi viz" inside a new building that was painted white and had excellent lighting installed.
They looked quite bemused when I asked how this would protect me from the 1200V, 300 amp electrical equipment I was working on.
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Old 18th Apr 2019, 12:09
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One aspect of Hi-viz is that would-be thieves become invisible with people assuming that they are 'part of the system' and therefore to be ignored.
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