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Old 16th Mar 2019, 12:33
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Old 17th Mar 2019, 11:26
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a8826816.html

Australian Grand Prix: Valtteri Bottas' four-letter message to his critics after season-opening win

Valtteri Bottas had a four-letter rebuke for his criticis after leaving his Mercedes teammate Lewis Hamilton trailing in his wake on his way to a season-opening win in Australia.

The Finn was out-qualified by Hamilton in Melbourne but was quicker into turn one and rounded off a stellar weekend by taking the bonus point for fastest lap. And after taking the chequered flag, he served up a four-letter riposte to those who had criticised him in the past.

"To whom it may concern, f*** you," the 29-year-old said.

When asked who the message was addressed to, Bottas said: "I think it would be quite a long list. I just wanted to send my best regards........





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Old 17th Mar 2019, 11:33
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Well that made for an interesting start to the season and (as I jokingly predicted) another Melbourne where Lewis gets pole but doesn't win the race. A slightly poorer start set the scene, and then having to cover off Vettel's early pit stop put Hamilton on tyres that were much slower for 10 laps longer, and also having to manage those tyres so that they'd still last the race, sealed the result. Verstappen looked good, but it became clear that Hamilton could turn on the performance if he needed it to keep him behind. The Honda engine looked strong and reliable, which suggests they may finally gave gotten to grips with it.

As for the Ferraris, well I guess they're having a serious investigation right now. Something must have been off on Vettel's car - perhaps just tyre wear - but it looks pretty clear that LeClerc could have taken 4th away from him if he'd been allowed to.

The Maclarens also looked to be well up with the mid-field group on performance, which is encouraging. And finally the point for fastest lap seems to be encouraging some sprints at the end of the race, which will be fun. We could really have done with the Ted Kravitz post-race analysis...

But before we get carried away let's see what happens on a more typical track (Albert Park is always a bit of an oddie). Roll on Bahrain.

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Old 17th Mar 2019, 12:41
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Valtteri needed that. Faultless weekend for him and good to hear him on team radio insisting he wanted 26 points (and getting them). Seems to have decided a more aggrressive approach is the way to go.
Interesting that he was a country mile in front of the rest of the field. Lewis appeared to have some idea why he was slower when asked after the race, but wouldn't elaborate. Could it be just down to tyres?
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Old 17th Mar 2019, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Blues&twos View Post
Valtteri needed that. Faultless weekend for him and good to hear him on team radio insisting he wanted 26 points (and getting them). Seems to have decided a more aggrressive approach is the way to go.
Interesting that he was a country mile in front of the rest of the field. Lewis appeared to have some idea why he was slower when asked after the race, but wouldn't elaborate. Could it be just down to tyres?
From what he said I'd guess it was that he made a poor start, and the rest was just the premature tyre stop - 10 extra laps on the slower tyre (in his last couple of laps on the old softs Vatiri was lapping 2secs faster than Lewis was on the new Mediums) and then having to push the tyres less to extract 10 extra laps from them.

There would be a question on whether they really did need to cover vettel's stop, but I would again guess they had no idea that vettel would be so slow, and the numbers probably suggested a high risk that staying out would have put them behind vettel when they did stop. So it's hard to see how they could have done otherwise in anything other than 20-20 hindsight.

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Old 17th Mar 2019, 13:24
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Cars definitely look closer together, and along with much more effective DRS, considering Melbourne is not the easiest track to overtake I think they've certainly fixed SOME of the aerodynamic following problem.

Interesting to see what Ferrari will be like at other tracks, they weren't all that great at Melbourne last year, but noticeably faster than Merc for a large part of the season.
Bottas dominated. That was a championship drive... if he can be consistent this season then he has every right to be fighting for that world championship.

Red Bull looked very strong, I bet they are kicking themselves real hard for not sending Gasly out again in Q1... he could have ended up with some solid points today if he'd got out of Q1 (he may even have got as high as 6th, if he'd started in the top 10).

Shame Norris seemed to drop back though. I feel Lance Stroll's points were a little artificial... with Sainz getting a better quali position and his engine not blowing up, and Danny Ric not retiring then I don't think Stroll would have been in the top 10... surprised to see him up there so much higher than Perez though, at one point I thought it was because Stroll hadn't pitted, but apparently had. Must have missed the point where Perez dropped right down the order.
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Watched the race but it's not clear to me why Daniel Ricciardo retired after 28 laps. Was it a result of damage at the start?
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With regards to Botas, I think it will be a matter of IF he will be allowed to compete against Hamilton, or just make up the 1-2 for the rest of the season.
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 02:12
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Give Bottas free rein, and let Lewis fight for it. They both enjoy the challenge. Maybe now Lewis will practice his starts more conscientiously.
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Watched the race but it's not clear to me why Daniel Ricciardo retired after 28 laps. Was it a result of damage at the start?
To quote "Autosport"

Ricciardo pitted for a new front wing at the end of the first lap before rejoining the race, but ended up retiring after being called into the garage by his team.He said after the race he was not sure why the car was retired, but that his initial concern that the team was "playing it safe" had made way for worries there could be ongoing problems."I still don't know, to be honest," he said.

"I do believe we have a problem, I don't think it was playing safe.

"I thought it was, but apparently we had some issues, so I hope it's not greater than that."
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Nice they're keeping him in the loop.
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Teds back! thankfully as I do not rate Karun Chandhok in the role and why oh why Nico Rosberg... cringe, he makes my skin crawl.

https://thesportsrush.com/ted-kravit...d-will-return/
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I sincerely hope that TK will return as he was and things return to normal.

At least they got rid of that clown EJ - next should be JH and then SL - and ditch the stoopid 'game-show'.
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 16:40
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Few random (and probably uninformed) remarks

I certainly expected Mercedes much better than testing would have suggested. They certainly delivered and seem to have quite a nice advantage over the competition. I think they might have been themselves surprised how far ahead they are. TBH does not bode well for the rest of the season.

Big slap on the face for Ferrari - and what on earth is this "no risk" strategy for Leclerc ? Having him put fresh tires and try a fastest lap was a no brainer.

Very promising results for RedBull - they might actually manage to turn it around (much to my surprise TBH). Congrats ! Conversely Renault is a big disappointment - they seem stuck as a mid-field team, which is completely unacceptable for the third constructor team after so long.

Bit surprised to see Haas pretty much "best of the rest". Not sure Ferrari will tolerate Alfa being behind them for long.

Williams is really worrying - I don't see them finish the season if they don't react very quickly. Sad.

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Old 18th Mar 2019, 16:57
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
Few random (and probably uninformed) remarks

I certainly expected Mercedes such better than testing would have suggested. They certainly delivered and seem to have quite a nice advantage over the competition. I think they might have been themselves surprised how far ahead they are. TBH does not bode well for the rest of the season.
Melbourne performance is not that representative of the rest of the season. It's worth noting that last year the Mercedes had the same gap (~600msec/lap) to the Ferraris, but the ferraris proved to be the faster car for most of the subsequent season. So this is not necessarily an indicator that the Mercedes will dominate the season like they did in (say) 2014/15. Equally the Red Bulls were very close to the Ferraris at Melbourne last year as well, but that didn't turn into contending performance for the rest of the year.

Having said that, the Ferrari may have looked easy to drive, but it didn't look very agile. The Mercedes looks twitchy and demanding to drive, but faster for the driver who can master it. That would be a bigger concern IMHO - it looks like the Ferrari's more compliant suspension to recover mid-body downforce may be giving them a balance problem with too much understeer. The on-board shots gave the impression that the Ferrari just didn't want to turn in. In contrast the mercedes seems to have hard front heave-springs with a soft front anti-roll springs, which means they may be able to ride over an inside curb but touching the outside curbs could throw them into a wall.

Roll on Bahrain - it should be interesting...

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Old 19th Mar 2019, 08:28
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Fair point about the specificity of Melbourne. Still, I don't expect a major shake-up of the hierarchy. I hope Ferrari will get their acts together and mount a real and consistent challenge (but I'm afraid they won't). In fairness, I am more hopeful of RedBull being a real contender by mid-season.

Does anyone know why Ricciardo actually retired?
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Does anyone know why Ricciardo actually retired?
According to various sources even Ricciardo doesn't know why Ricciardo retired...

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Cyril Abiteboul:
we tried to recover positions at the start but we ultimately had to retire his car due to the damage.
I would suspect from the brief look at the impact which demolished the front wing, the front of the floor also sustained damage, and their data worried them enough to make it not worth adding more engine wear when Dan was in no position to gain any points.
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Cyril Abiteboul:

I would suspect from the brief look at the impact which demolished the front wing, the front of the floor also sustained damage.
Daniel was told that there was floor damage with a loss of downforce which he confirmed.
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