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Old 31st Oct 2017, 20:38
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Lauda isn't the most likable man, but he is a man that sticks to his principles. It's well worth listening to the interview segments. Here are a couple
Lauda is probably number one on my list of former drivers I'd like to sit down and have a beer with (at least of the ones that are still alive). A racing buddy of mine who also worked at Boeing got to meet Lauda when he took delivery of one of his airplanes - said he was a very down to earth guy.
Graham Bensinger has a regular show on one of the USA cable sports channels where he interviews various sports celebrities - I've never watched it but I see it advertised all the time. BTW, for some reason your you tube links don't appear on my browser
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 08:23
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Lauda is probably number one on my list of former drivers I'd like to sit down and have a beer with.
Jackie Stewart by a country mile for me please!
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We seem rather late with extending our congratulations to Lewis Hamilton upon achieving his fourth world championship. Nice one Lewis!!!

Hopefully at least four more to come as Michael's record cannot last for ever!
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 09:35
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I doubt that LH will want to remain in F1 long enough to achieve a further four championships.
I have no doubt that he is capable, but drivers like Max Verstappen need to have their opportunity.
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 12:33
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
I doubt that LH will want to remain in F1 long enough to achieve a further four championships.
I have no doubt that he is capable, but drivers like Max Verstappen need to have their opportunity.
Its not a matter of making way for new generations. When the new blood is capable of taking the world championship they will rightly take it. Others will fall by the wayside and those who have had their day will rapidly fade away. Thats F1!
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 13:15
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Lauda is probably number one on my list of former drivers I'd like to sit down and have a beer with (at least of the ones that are still alive). A racing buddy of mine who also worked at Boeing got to meet Lauda when he took delivery of one of his airplanes - said he was a very down to earth guy.
Graham Bensinger has a regular show on one of the USA cable sports channels where he interviews various sports celebrities - I've never watched it but I see it advertised all the time. BTW, for some reason your you tube links don't appear on my browser
See if this link works for you. If it does you can just keep following the trail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=P...&v=kM6OABZ0PZ4
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 13:59
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
I doubt that LH will want to remain in F1 long enough to achieve a further four championships.
I have no doubt that he is capable, but drivers like Max Verstappen need to have their opportunity.
Surely they have their opportunity the moment they start racing.
I would say that if someone becomes a champion partly because the current top runners retire or move on, it devalues their efforts.
After all, to be the beast, you have to beat the best.
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 17:48
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LH is arguably the best out there right now,he certainly can get the best out of the Mercedes but as with so many previous world champions unless we see the other contenders driving the same car or at least a car that is able to compete we never really know. Sad that Ferrari imploded half way through the season.. and a shame at what happened in Singapore.. but that's racing. Next year is looking promising as regards some epic battles.
Can someone out there tell us why we keep hearing about how Mercedes can tweak their engines to give greater power output in qualifying ? We never hear about other teams doing this and if Mercedes are the only team able to do that it makes a nonsense of quali. We know that the Mercs don't do well when coping with the rough air of a car in front so being on pole can be a game changer beyond the usual first corner advantage.
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 17:52
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Mercedes can 'afford' to allow a short-term boost if their engine is inherently reliable.
For engines which are operating at the peak of their performance, an 'overboost' could induce an early failure.
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[QUOTE=tdracer;9942742]Lauda is probably number one on my list of former drivers I'd like to sit down and have a beer with (at least of the ones that are still alive).

In the absence of his father then young Damon.
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post

In the absence of his father then young Damon.
I have had the pleasure of 'having a drink' with Hill senior.
Things seemed so much more relaxed back in the days when you could literally rub shoulders with the likes of Hill, Clark and Chapman.

Nobody bothered them for 'autographs'.
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 18:40
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"BTW, for some reason your you tube links don't appear on my browser "


Assume that, like me, you use Internet Explorer which seems to be causing this problem. No other browsers seem to have this problem.
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See if this link works for you. If it does you can just keep following the trail:
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I never realised Lauda had that side of his personality. Excellent interview and a gentleman. Good to see he is still around.
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Originally Posted by david1300 View Post
See if this link works for you. If it does you can just keep following the trail:
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After watching that I have more respect for Nicki Lauda than before. Some people go their own way in life like James Hunt and people bring the back. Some control their own lives and others are lucky. James unfortunately in the end had no control over his destiny. It is good to see he was so liked by one of the greatest who has got on with life after a major setback. Respect.

I especially liked the bit where testing was suspended because a car had stopped at the side of the track. Turned out James Hunt after a heavy previous night had fallen asleep at the wheel and pulled over. How times change. ��

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Old 1st Nov 2017, 22:21
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Can someone out there tell us why we keep hearing about how Mercedes can tweak their engines to give greater power output in qualifying ? We never hear about other teams doing this and if Mercedes are the only team able to do that it makes a nonsense of quali.
The following is pieced together from bits and pieces - some hints from people who are in a position to know, some hints from what I've seen & heard, and some guesswork, so take it with as large or small a pinch of salt as you please!

AIUI all the teams have a "quali mode" available. At its most basic it just switches off the MGU-H harvesting during the lap and runs the motor a bit richer, but they do more than this. The Mercedes "quali mode" is allegedly more effective/extreme than that of the others, but that is changing.

The "more than this" stuff (as far as I can gather) is about running various parameters at the extreme of the margins rather than a safe distance from them. So the ignition timing is more aggressive, the boost pressures are higher, the mixture is richer, the injection phasing is on the ragged edge, the turbine is run hotter/faster and so on. In this mode efficiency goes right out of the window in pursuit of absolute power, and it is rumoured that the Mercedes PU gains somewhere between 60 and 100bhp in this mode, but any given engine only has a total allowance of about 10mins of quali mode (2 mins per race). That's why the team were livid when both drivers disobeyed and switched into quali mode for the final laps of the Bahrein GP in 2014 - it took a lot of life out of the engines.

The Mercedes PU was substantially more efficient than the others in 2014, and to a much lesser extent still is, so if they decide to trade efficiency for power this gives them more leighway to play with than the others. But now that the others have copied the major Mercedes innovations (the split turbo and turbulent jet ignition) they're much closer to the same ballpark. Where Mercedes have spent 3 years growing the reliability of their PU the other teams now have similar power but with less reliability, so before they can fully use a similarly extreme quali mode they need to catch up on reliability growth. Ferrari are nearly there, and claim that a decent quali mode is "WIP", but Renault (in stock and "TAG-HAUER" forms) still need some work, especially in respect to the turbine and associated MGU-H.

Final thought - we are led to believe that the Mercedes "Quali mode" is available in the same extent to all the Mercedes customer teams as well as the works team. The Mercedes success isn't just power - they also have a very good car and some good drivers!

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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 07:49
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Many thanks for that.. Explains a lot.. I'm surprised that it hasn't been explained more during the Ch 4 coverage.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 08:16
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Originally Posted by MungoP View Post
Can someone out there tell us why we keep hearing about how Mercedes can tweak their engines to give greater power output in qualifying ? We never hear about other teams doing this and if Mercedes are the only team able to do that it makes a nonsense of quali. We know that the Mercs don't do well when coping with the rough air of a car in front so being on pole can be a game changer beyond the usual first corner advantage.
In addition to the excellent explanation given above, I'd like to emphasise one point and add one other:
1 - because there is no restriction on fuel used in qualifying there is more scope to run richer (as covered above) and Merc may just be ahead of the others in this (in race mode they are limited to the amount of fuel they can use), and
2 - there are ways that the engines also burn oil by adding it to the combustion process. There is no restriction on oild capacity but there is a race restriction of burning 0.9 litres per 100 km. In qualifying mode again there is no restriction on oil burn, and there is speculation that there are oil additives that might increase power output.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 08:17
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In a way it was, but not so clearly as the above. Remember how the drivers under the new regulations grumbled how they could not longer drive flat out, that it was not really racing any longer? Of course there is the fuel limit and no refuelling, but engine mapping and the trade-off between power and engine life became a delicate balancing act.
In the race or in qualifying for example, Alonso has just occasionally turned on the taps for a lap or two to show what the Honda engine is actually capable of when all the pussy-footers are way back in the pits.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 08:22
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Burning oil to produce more power:
How Today's F1 Engines Can Burn Oil to Make More Power

We would all be pretty upset if our road cars burned .9 liters of oil for every 100 km driven (or approx 313 mpg oil burn)
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 09:51
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We would all be pretty upset if our road cars burned .9 liters of oil for every 100 km driven (or approx 313 mpg oil burn)
For those of us who used to drive Climax-powered Hillman Imps that would be regarded as quite normal...



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