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Old 21st Sep 2016, 21:13
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https://www.theguardian.com/business...a-one-supercar

Apple ‘in 1.5bn talks to buy supercar maker McLaren’
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 22:19
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Seems McLaren are denying the story.
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Old 21st Sep 2016, 22:23
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Could leave Alonso cursing the latest software update.
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Old 22nd Sep 2016, 17:14
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So, another seventeen year old seems about to enter Formula One; I will refrain from calling it Grand Prix racing. Ok, so in the past there were young debutants such as Rodriquez, Amon and Thackwell, but I do so miss the characters of days gone by as opposed to the corporate clones which now grace the Formula One grid. Thinking back to my first Grand Prix we had Stewart, Hulme, Revson, Cevert, Hill, Reutemann, Hunt, Scheckter, Regazzoni, Ickx, Peterson, Fittipaldi, Lauda, Amon, Purley, Watson, Williamson.....fourteen Grand Prix winners, some lost talent, real characters, real racers !
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 06:11
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Spot on with the old driver's, who never saw any video games to prove they had quick reactions. what we see today..really is not what we saw in the days of true Grand Prix..its more of cleaver computer Geeks making a car look like a "Klingon Star Fighter" than the true sports car race bred Aluminium masterpiece, that made evocative noises as only V8,V10,V12 and V16's and flat 12's could do not a sort of silenced Fart.. from an engine the size of the old Mini engine..

Its Corporate and money and greed, plus modern skill ie Computer Geeks tweaking here and there..
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 08:34
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"Klingon Star Fighter"
Please forgive my nerdiness but, there ain't no such animal.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 11:09
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Please forgive my nerdiness but, there ain't no such animal.
If there was you now know what they would look like
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 15:44
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All this moaning about boring drivers etc, and yet when a certain young Dutch guy starts putting fun back into it, everybody starts complaining ! Can't have it both ways guys.
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 08:20
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All this moaning about boring drivers etc, and yet when a certain young Dutch guy starts putting fun back into it, everybody starts complaining ! Can't have it both ways guys.
Everybody??? Really Geordie, that is so wrong. One or two drivers complained, most drivers said they have no problem, and the public comments are probably 50/50

A million people wish that everybody wouldn't exaggerate everything all the time because nobody believes anything at all anymore
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 15:16
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Originally Posted by david1300 View Post
Everybody??? Really Geordie, that is so wrong. One or two drivers complained, most drivers said they have no problem, and the public comments are probably 50/50

A million people wish that everybody wouldn't exaggerate everything all the time because nobody believes anything at all anymore

Go back and read the majority of comments on this thread. Apart from myself, don't recall anyone with a good word to say about him. (No doubt you will correct me).
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 15:29
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I personally quite enjoy watching Verstappen race.

I'm also pretty sure that he'll be the next dead F1 driver.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 19:21
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I like him.
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 22:14
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I don't think I've ever said I didn't like Verstappen. What I have said is, he needs to cool it a bit - especially the agressive blocking - or someone's going to get hurt...
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 09:47
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Originally Posted by Geordie_Expat View Post
All this moaning about boring drivers etc, and yet when a certain young Dutch guy starts putting fun back into it, everybody starts complaining ! Can't have it both ways guys.
Well, judging by the previous 3 responses you need to amend your statement to read "...everybody except 3 starts complaining!"

Actually make that 4 because it includes me. Wait, make it 8 to include my wife and son ...
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 15:07
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I don't particularly like Verstappen, but I haven't mentioned it before.
Does that count?

:-?
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Old 25th Sep 2016, 15:19
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The young Verstappen has undoubted talent.
I suspect that he inherits the behaviour of his father.
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Old 30th Sep 2016, 18:57
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Magnussen fuel fire.

When fuel was flowing out of the breather and catching fire after running down the engine cover, why didn't the fuel vaporise and explode?

Renault suspect fuel leak to blame for fire

I would assume that the fuel would be volatile like petrol (gasolene) - or is it more like kerosene (aviation fuel)?
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Old 1st Oct 2016, 10:11
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I would assume that the fuel would be volatile like petrol (gasolene) - or is it more like kerosene (aviation fuel)?
Both gasoline and jet fuel are volatile. But not necessarily explosive. In the context of combustible liquids, volatility refers to how readily the liquid evaporates rather than to explosiveness. Gasoline has a considerably higher vapor pressure (volatility) than jet fuel. Gasoline must vaporize and mix with air (for the O2 content) or other oxidizer before it can contribute to the combustion process. (chemically combine with the O2)

If liquid gasoline is sprayed out of a pressurized container such as a fuel tank, even in an aerosol form, it still must vaporize and mix with the O2 in the air before an ignition source (sufficient heat) can initiate combustion. The rate of combustion of gasoline (flame velocity) is quite variable according to a host of factors. But generally, at ambient temperatures and pressures, the flame propagation velocity will be quite low, but increasing with temperature and pressure. When detonation (explosion) occurs, this flame velocity increases allot and very rapidly, but still well short of the velocities associated with high explosives.

Outside of a detonation event inside an engine cylinder, gasoline almost never explodes. This can be engineered of course, but rarely happens as the result of spillage or accident. Hollywood car explosions are all staged for the camera using high explosives. That in turn vaporizes the fuel quickly to produce impressive flames and black smoke to complement the explosion. Still, spraying gasoline on hot surfaces can produce rather impressive vaporization rates, which lead to rapid fire propagation! Good job by those crewmen with the fire bottles and a pretty quick move by the driver to get clear.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 07:10
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Well really - Vettel should know better than streaming down the inside like some youngster named Verstappen

But the replay seems to show that Verstappen will rightfully cop the blame again. Raikonnen shows how it is done.

Edit to add - better view shows Vettel hitting Rossberg quite hard, actually. I'll have to have a look later when I'm not actually working on something else with the TV on in the background.
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Old 2nd Oct 2016, 08:24
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Another engine failure for Hamilton when he had an almost certain first place. Looking increasingly like Rosberg's year for the title.

Lucky to get away with the shunt on Kimi - even if he got a 10 second penalty for it.
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