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Old 14th Dec 2015, 17:18
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a complete new-comer to F1
But with experience of NASCAR and CART, I believe?
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Back to my mis-spent yoof, I have always preferred road racing to oval-track racing. Spent many a day at Road America, going back to the 60's and the days of the Lister Jag, the Scarab, and then the original "Sting-Ray".

But the two aren't the same sport -- different technology, different driving skills, different strategies. Very few successful crossover drivers. Nascar of course dates back to the day when the average Joe imagined getting into his big iron Dodge or Ford and competing.

And the appeal for spectators is that the whole race plays out in view of most of the people. Road tracks aren't that way.

I still like road racing. But F1 has become something far divorced from a vehicle anyone can imagine driving, and the drivers are pretty over the top also.
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Old 14th Dec 2015, 18:02
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But with experience of NASCAR and CART, I believe?
Sorry, CART was Carl Haas, not the NASCAR/F1 Haas (yes I was initially confused as well).
I wish him the best - I'd really like to see a successful "American" F1 team - but I'm not optimistic.
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Ferrari 'could quit' over rules as F1's power struggle continues.

Ferrari 'could quit' over rules as F1's power struggle continues - BBC Sport
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Max Verstappen tops 2015 overtakes list
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 13:55
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It might read as a bit odd, but a problem we have had in getting Yanks back into Formula 1 is that the money is so good on our side of the pond. Our guys seem to be quite happy sticking with Nascar, Indy Car, AMLS and many other indigenous forms of racing, so that a lot of our top talent gets creamed off, rather than transitioning to Formula 1.

It's somewhat the same in Moto GP, where the American presence has diminished to almost nothing after years of American dominance by such greats as Kenny Roberts, Eddie Lawson, Freddie Spencer, and Waine Rainey.

The talent is there, but the spectator interest in Formula 1 has largely gone, along with the motivation to move to Formula 1 as the premier class.

For another thing, just look at the size of a Nascar automobile: it's a huge rolling billboard plastered with gaudy colors promoting just about anything you could think of, a sponsor's dream, with national coverage in the papers and on TV and many sold-out races.

Along comes Bernie with one puny race per year, or not, as the case may be, often not in the same place as on the year before, in these weedy little cars that do not roar, smoke, and bash hell out of each other.

This, for a Yank, is like having to choose between watching pro wrestling or else the National Spelling Bee! I will go for the Spelling Bee, but that's not where the money is going to go.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 15:15
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Americans lose interest in anything they cannot dominate. They have a World Series in a sport that nobody else plays ffs ! (talking about rounders - oh sorry baseball)
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 20:03
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" They have a World Series in a sport that nobody else plays"



Wrong!

Look it up.
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Old 17th Dec 2015, 22:18
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What - one Canadian team ? Come on !!
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 00:29
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It's America's world so that they can call it whatever they want to! While it's true that almost all the teams playing in the World Series are American ones, there are many star players from elsewhere, even from Cuba and Japan. We are not as closed to the outside world as you think.

At one time in the early history of organized crime in America we even had a Geordie Mafia. It died out, though, because they kept trying extortion by making their victims "an offer they could not understand."
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 09:50
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World Series

Isnt that a bit unfair on the poor old yanks - wasnt it called 'The World Series' as it was sponsored by a company called 'World Soap' as opposed to an attempt at global domination.
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Old 18th Dec 2015, 11:18
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Attempt not, Grasshopper. Do!

We do not attempt global domination; we dominate! No, the name came from the world, not from the World, but thank you for trying to pull at least one of our chestnuts out of the fire.

One of the best parts of Formula 1 in the States is hearing the announcers struggle with them furrin names.

Not Formula 1 but the Monte Carlo Rally saw some Swede win it driving an S.O.B.

Then there was the way that our premier magazine about all things automotive and foreign, Road & Track, tried to help someone out by explaining that "Porsche" was not pronounced "porsh" but "Portia."

That was followed by someone else writing in to ask if it really were so that Porsche is pronounced "por-tee-aye," as a friend of hers claimed to have read in Road & Track. Jesus wept.

R&T once visited the Porsche factory, and then published pictures of new Porsches being given a road test there, only about 10 km., with "bras" meant to protect the fresh paint from stone chips. (Road test finished, the bra is removed.) After that, the American car-bra industry took off. although putting one on a road car for an extended period leads to grit accumulating under the bra and damaging the paint!
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LH has decided not to attend the SPOTY final event, preferring to remain in America.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 19:49
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American motor racing..................

Figure 8 Racing

My first reaction was "what the f$$$", but actually...........

its a damn sight more interesting than F1 these days.
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 20:03
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LH has decided not to attend the SPOTY final event, preferring to remain in America.
I can't say I blame him. Tried watching it but became rather bored with it all
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Old 20th Dec 2015, 21:04
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Around 1974,i went to a "banger world championship" in London somewhere.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 07:18
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A three times World Champion can't make it into the Top 3 of SPOTY. Probably says a lot about the individual and maybe the sport itself.
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Old 21st Dec 2015, 08:06
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The little Fella(who was elsewhere) was beaten by Tyson Fury, who also nearly had third place, so much for the outrage of lower contenders who originally threatened to pull out re the Queer/Les outrage at his post fight speech/comments......
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