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Old 5th Mar 2012, 14:39
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With his airline empire crumbling around him and its bank-accounts frozen by the Indian government, will VJ's other interests continue to support his F1 team?

If I was one of the many Kingfisher staff who has not been paid for almost 4 months I would be well hacked-offseeing him sitting smugly in the pit-lane overseeing his £multi-million weekend toy...
Ah the beauty of Limited companies...
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 17:40
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I for one am not paying for Sky Sorts just to watch all of the Formula 1.
I believe the Beeb will send the races they don't broadcast live out later
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 20:19
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" Agree with all that. One thing missing though: Now the BBC has relinquished half of the races and you are forced to pay for Sky Sports will the interest in Formula 1 be the same this year? I for one am not paying for Sky Sorts just to watch all of the Formula 1."

I read that a UK pub owner got a dish set up to watch football, via the Continental feeds, as she refused to be gouged by the FA crooks. It pissed the soccer mafia off no end, when she won the court case !!

As a friend in Holland watches Moto GP from the BBC feed, would it be possible to pick up RTL or Tele France F1 feeds in the UK ?
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Old 5th Mar 2012, 21:07
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Now the BBC has relinquished half of the races and you are forced to pay for Sky Sports will the interest in Formula 1 be the same this year? I for one am not paying for Sky Sorts just to watch all of the Formula 1.
This is the sort of myopic vision that amazes me with so many corporations and business people these days (or maybe it's always been like that).

When you have a sport such as Formula one which relies heavily on sponsorship by way of advertising then wouldn't it be in the interest of those involved aka BE and others for the long term viability and longevity of the sport as costs increase because of the nature of technology for as many people as possible to watch the racing?

How many people will not watch now because they either can't afford a pay channel or a disenchanted with it because of the relentless money grab from those involved?

The more people who watch, the more people are seeing the advertising on both the tracks,the cars and even the drivers clothing and caps after the race.

Do the people who have made this decision have anything to do with the people who own Sky Sports?

I would think that the teams,the owners of the circuits and the sponsors of the teams themselves would have something to say about this or is this just something happening in the UK?

Even then I would like to see the numbers of people who will pay to watch the racing this year compared to those who have watched it in previous years when it was on free to air.

How much is enough when you look at figures like $500 million from the various circuits (small wonder someone wants as many races as possible each year....I bet that person would like a race every weekend if those figures are true) let alone the TV rights and other sources of revenue?

Every day it seems as though someone is looking at every possible part of life and then finding a way to make or increase this as a source of revenue.They look at a popular past time and then start working out how to milk it for everything they can.

In 20 years time you will probably be taxed on how much you breathe and will have to undergo a medical each year to determine that amount.

I had a laugh when someone suggested that large people travelling on aircraft should be charged more because of their weight above a (to be determined) average weight for an adult.

Does that mean that the airlines will then give a discount to those who weigh less than that figure?

It would be a cold day in hell before that happens so I doubt it.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 04:07
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When you have a sport such as Formula one which relies heavily on sponsorship by way of advertising then wouldn't it be in the interest of those involved aka BE and others for the long term viability and longevity of the sport as costs increase because of the nature of technology for as many people as possible to watch the racing?

How many people will not watch now because they either can't afford a pay channel or a disenchanted with it because of the relentless money grab from those involved?

The more people who watch, the more people are seeing the advertising on both the tracks,the cars and even the drivers clothing and caps after the race.

Do the people who have made this decision have anything to do with the people who own Sky Sports?
Just to clarify things, Bernie and his companies actually had very little to do with this BBC/SKY deal.

The Beeb were contracted to do all races for at least another year, but decided they were spending too much on F1 and that money would be better spend on quality programmes like "Strictly Come Dancing". Because they couldn't just cut and run, as that would leave them with a HUGE bill for breaking their contract, THEY came up with the idea and negotiated the deal with SKY which was then approved by Bernie as he knows he'll still get his TV rights revenue.

So, as far as this situation goes, you have to blame the Beeb and not, for once, Bernie.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 07:23
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Originally Posted by Lon More View Post
I believe the Beeb will send the races they don't broadcast live out later
Indeed after we know the result and much of what has gone on during the race has already been discussed here!
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... but decided they were spending too much on F1 and that money would be better spend on quality programmes like "Strictly Come Dancing".
I hope there is an element of sarcasm in that! The dross that the BBC puts out nowadays because it is 'popular' is an appalling contrast to many of the quality programmes it puts out.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 07:52
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The dross that the BBC puts out nowadays because it is 'popular' is an appalling contrast to many of the quality programmes it puts out.
Not that I am a fan of Strictly-esque programs (I, like you find them nothing short of dreadful), however, you can't slag off the beeb for catering for the masses as opposed to the artistically educated few.. They have a business to run, not a special needs charity.

It is a fair point made above, whilst normally we like to aportion blame to Bernie or Sky, this time around the blame lies squarely with the beeb. I for one find it ridiculous that you can have 3 football highlights shows per weekend, presented by highly paid, so-called former stars, yet a maximum of 2 F1 races per month is a stretch??

Crap!
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 08:41
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It does seem all of a sudden that it's wallet raiding time for F1 fans. Firstly we have the paying for live races on Sky as discussed but also last week I decided to get the latest F1 live timing app for Android. 2011 app - free. 2012 app - £19.99 Yes I realise that it's much more fully featured but I just wanted a simple app (like last years). Not everyone wants a circuit map, driver tracker etc etc.
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Old 6th Mar 2012, 09:15
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£19.99 for an app? Mate Sky seems a much better investment
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BBC Sport - Marussia take on female test driver Maria de Villota
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Things worsen for Kingfisher.

IATA suspends Kingfisher from settlement system | Reuters
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BBC Sport - Marussia take on female test driver Maria de Villota
She's had a few crashes...............



I hope.
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Old 9th Mar 2012, 09:20
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£19.99 for an app? Mate Sky seems a much better investment
Indeed, hence why I didn't buy it, and I haven't paid for the F1 channel!

Maybe I will (have to) pay for the F1 channel in due course but for now I'm going to see if I can get by on the BBC extended highlights for the races it's not showing live. I watched very few races live anyway (Sky+ but no HD or Sports package hence I don't get the F1 channel for free) so hopefully shouldn't be much difference.
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IATA suspends Kingfisher from settlement system | Reuters
Won't make any difference to the F1 team.
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Old 9th Mar 2012, 09:49
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It's difficult to see the effect for the European races not televised live by the BBC they are publishing the following for Australia.
Australian Grand Prix, Melbourne
Saturday 17 March: Qualifying highlights: 1300-1415, BBC Two/BBC HD/online
Sunday 18 March: Grand Prix highlights: 1400-1600, BBC One/BBC HD/online.



Now if they can shut the pundits up those look like almost full coverage but I will have to re-organise my little life. My normal practice for the fly away races was to time shift them and watch as soon as I woke. I have no choice as here I cannot, legally, subscribe to SKY. and the illegal alternative is exorbitant
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Old 9th Mar 2012, 10:32
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would it be possible to pick up RTL or Tele France F1 feeds in the UK ?
On the 19.2 E Astra sat. You'll need a Msdiaguard compatible receiver and card though. Maybe your Dutch friend can deliver or exchange for a Sky subbscription?

Indeed after we know the result and much of what has gone on during the race has already been discussed here!
Nobody forces you to come in here, or to even watch tv news. It seems to work well enough for footy fans with Match of the Day.

Edited because QWERTY struck again

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Old 9th Mar 2012, 10:59
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On the 19.2 W Astra sat
Is RTL (SD) still available FTA in the UK on Astra 19.2 E ?
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Old 9th Mar 2012, 11:04
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Originally Posted by Wodrick View Post
It's difficult to see the effect for the European races not televised live by the BBC they are publishing the following for Australia.
Australian Grand Prix, Melbourne
Saturday 17 March: Qualifying highlights: 1300-1415, BBC Two/BBC HD/online
Sunday 18 March: Grand Prix highlights: 1400-1600, BBC One/BBC HD/online.



Now if they can shut the pundits up those look like almost full coverage but I will have to re-organise my little life. My normal practice for the fly away races was to time shift them and watch as soon as I woke. I have no choice as here I cannot, legally, subscribe to SKY. and the illegal alternative is exorbitant

It's the full news blackout that you have to do to keep the result secret thats the pain. no tv or radio news, no internet etc until 2pm!
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This looks interesting! (well to me! )


Daniel Brühl arrives on set as battle scarred Niki Lauda after filming epic crash that ignited rivalry with British racing driver James Hunt in new movie Rush | Mail Online

Didn't know about this film. will be looking out for it next year. it can't be worse than "Driven" !
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