Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

Cuba

Old 15th Oct 2014, 20:45
  #361 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
How did that work out for ya eh?
Splendid. My lifetime, beginning in the early 1950's saw no total war, economic prosperity, and the grace of Pax America. And we Americans had no need or desire for colonies. Our standard of living advanced exponentially. Everything was good until the Socialist/Populist phenomena overcame us.
BenThere is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 05:34
  #362 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Zealand
Age: 73
Posts: 508
Yea but what about your
...and worked to end it after WWII.
Now just where were you doing that? French Indochina?
John Hill is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 06:06
  #363 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 943
" When Cuba is freed from Socialism, let the good times roll

So will you be retiring there to celebrate then ?.....or, better still, as there's only one, with a somewhat restricted customer base, outlet on the island, opening a McJunk franchise to show those poor, disadvantaged Cubans what they have, fortunately for them, been missing ?
Krystal n chips is online now  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 10:24
  #364 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
Can you imagine the joy that would flow to you from presenting a Cuban youngster, who has known only Socialist squalor, with his first Big Mac?

The loss of the Western European empires was engineered by post-WWII US policy. Scores of new nations became independent and self-governing. Whether that was good or bad is another debate.
BenThere is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 10:41
  #365 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Edinburgh
Age: 52
Posts: 100
Can you imagine the disappointment of a Cuban youngster on being presented with his first big mac?
perthsaint is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 11:34
  #366 (permalink)  
Dushan
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Millions of Big Macs get eaten every day, all over the world. I doubt that even one is eaten under some sort of duress. So why wouldn't a Cuban kid think it is a good thing, given that he has never even seen one before?
 
Old 16th Oct 2014, 11:48
  #367 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Edinburgh
Age: 52
Posts: 100
As with most fast foods there is a difference between the advertisement and the reality.
perthsaint is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 13:20
  #368 (permalink)  
Dushan
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by perthsaint View Post
As with most fast foods there is a difference between the advertisement and the reality.
Big Mac differs very little from what I've seen on advertisements. If you tip the container it can get a bit messy. But it tastes very good. I am not saying one should make it part of their regular diet, but once in a while, when in need of fast food and a good deal, it's the ticket.

Why wouldn't someone who has eaten nothing but free rice and chicken his entire life not enjoy a Big Mac? With fries and a Coke
 
Old 16th Oct 2014, 13:26
  #369 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Edinburgh
Age: 52
Posts: 100
Well, indeed.

But as any urban Cuban can get a burger, chips and coke on any street corner why would they want a tasteless processed Big Mac?
perthsaint is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 16:45
  #370 (permalink)  

Aviator Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Age: 72
Posts: 2,394
But as any urban Cuban can get a burger, chips and coke on any street corner why would they want a tasteless processed Big Mac?
If life is so great in Cuba, why are more and more Cubans fleeing Cuba today on anything that can float and/or paying their pitiful life savings trying to escape?

Funny how you people that defend all things Castro refuse to address that question.

Afraid of the truth perhaps.
con-pilot is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 17:03
  #371 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
95% of the time, when presented with a choice, I'll leave the tofu spread and sprout wrap on a bland and tasteless, gluten-free tortilla-like healthy offering for you. I'll take the Big Mac.

I generally buy them when I have only a short time in the airport going from flight to flight with only minutes to spare. I walk in, spend about a minute's wages, and walk out with a warm tasty sandwich with some protein and appetite relief that will get me to the layover.

And it's the same whether I'm in Detroit or Singapore.
BenThere is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 17:05
  #372 (permalink)  
Dushan
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by BenThere View Post

And it's the same whether I'm in Detroit or Singapore.
But not in Havana!!
 
Old 16th Oct 2014, 17:19
  #373 (permalink)  

Aviator Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Age: 72
Posts: 2,394
Every once in a while, about three/four times a year, I suffer from a Big Mac attack.

And you know what, I have never been in a county, including England, that I could not get a Big Mac, except Cuba.

Oh, and I've been in a hell of a lot of countries, too many to list here.

Now, the one food that I could not get or find outside of the Americas is Mexican food. Except for a Mexican restaurant that I stumbled across in Portugal.
con-pilot is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 17:40
  #374 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 943
I'll leave the tofu spread and sprout wrap on a bland and tasteless, gluten-free tortilla-like healthy offering for you. I'll take the Big Mac.

I generally buy them when I have only a short time in the airport going from flight to flight with only minutes to spare. I walk in, spend about a minute's wages, and walk out with a warm tasty sandwich with some protein and appetite relief that will get me to the layover


Alas, this may explain some other deficiencies in your lifestyle....healthy eating has a long established correlation with.... thinking...... for example.

And, we can only ponder as to how fast, and how this is phrased of course, you casually drop into the conversation that you have shares in the supplier of the "tasty sandwich" about to be regurgitated in your direction.

Nothing like a bit of due deference after all....cap optional, but no doubt prominent. to ensure the minion behind the counter displays enough towards you.

I can cheerfully say however, that, I cannot actually remember the last time I actually ate any of their products. There are always edible alternatives.

So at least I haven't contributed to your dividend payments.

Having a regard and respect for humanity, I would be unlikely to want to introduce some poor Cuban child to a source of potential diabetes.
Krystal n chips is online now  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 18:00
  #375 (permalink)  

Aviator Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Age: 72
Posts: 2,394
Having a regard and respect for humanity, I would be unlikely to want to introduce some poor Cuban child to a source of potential diabetes.
Now that's funny.

“OH MY GOD! I JUST ATE A BIG MAC, NOW I’M DIABETIC!!!!!!!!!”

As if there is no food in Cuba that could cause one becoming diabetic. But then again, when your only food is a ten pound bag of rice and three pounds of chicken a month, the risk of becoming diabetic is pretty damn low.

By the way, I noticed that you are avoiding addressing the question of why over 20,000 Cubans have risked their lives trying to flee Cuba this year, with untold numbers dying in the attempt.

If Cuba is such a paradise for Cubans, why is this happening?
con-pilot is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 18:06
  #376 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
Somehow, I knew my McDonalds post would draw a response from you, Krystal.

I've had many bad habits, according to the experts, tobacco, alcohol, fast food, et al., but at 63 I'm still working and over a 40 year career I've taken only a few weeks of sick leave. Not as strong as I used to be, but overall - healthy as a horse.

This week, we are keeping watch over a close friend. She is a yoga instructor in Ann Arbor, strict vegan, ardent runner, and seeker of health in the lifestyle and diet of her husband and child. She's around 40 and has beaten breast cancer into remission, but now it has come back and we're told the end is near as she has gone to hospice care.

That's not to say her choices have led to her situation, but I think there is a message that a positive outlook, enjoyment of life and friends, embracing the pleasures life has to offer, even in so lowly indulgences as a Big Mac, can have an impact I think is overlooked. Obsession with what we perceive as well-being choices are often overly emphasized while the pleasures are discounted, to our detriment.

So you carry on staying away from McDonalds, Krystal. Godspeed! Me? I might go for the Filet-O-Fish on my next visit. In your honor.
BenThere is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 18:12
  #377 (permalink)  

Aviator Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma USA
Age: 72
Posts: 2,394
I might go for the Filet-O-Fish on my next visit.
Well, as soon as you finish eating it, go straight to hospital, because according to Krystal you'll go into a diabetic coma within the hour.
con-pilot is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 18:15
  #378 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
Roger.

Another point is that if a McDonalds opened in Havana tomorrow, jobs there as fast food workers would draw the flower of Cuban workers, just as happened in Moscow not so long ago.
BenThere is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 18:22
  #379 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Zealand
Age: 73
Posts: 508
The loss of the Western European empires was engineered by post-WWII US policy. Scores of new nations became independent and self-governing.
Please supply at least one score of these new nations which became independent and self governing as a result of post-WWII US policy.

Whether that was good or bad is another debate.
Why should that be another debate? I asked you how did that work out and you said "Splendid", are you unable to support that claim?
John Hill is offline  
Old 16th Oct 2014, 19:13
  #380 (permalink)  
Hardly Never Not Unwilling
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 481
It's simple, JH. After WWII, the European colonial powers were exhausted and did not have the military means to retain their empires in the face of any significant resistance.

The US was the only source of military power that had any possibility of enforcing the pre-war colonial order. The US refused, much to the chagrin of Churchill.

You can Google the score and more countries that gained independence from European colonial powers after 1945.

Whether the end of colonialism was a benefit for the nations involved is a huge topic, the scope of which is worthy of its own thread. Start it up if you're so inclined. I'll play.

And if you are saying the post-WWII era was unkind to the US, you have some very high standards.
BenThere is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.