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Old 15th Jul 2014, 16:42
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NZ has been progressively socialist since the 19th century.
I guess that is why rationing didn't end in New Zealand until 1950 after World War Two.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 16:48
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Rationing didn't end in Britain until later than that !


BTW, NZ didn't catch up with the rest of the world until the mid to late 1980's.

Prior to that it was still very old and backward.

In 1981, it seemed to me that a lot of the cars were old English stuff from the 50's and 60's.
We saw more cars that my parents owned back in the 60's - Cortina's, Hillman Imps et al !
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 16:51
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Back in the 40s New Zealand didn't seem to mind US ships in their waters.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 16:54
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That was before they became all fluffy luvvies like John

At least the French showed them !
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Rationing didn't end in Britain until later than that
And on a July 4th.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 18:43
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I dunno, perhaps capitalism ain't perfect, but neither is cradle to grave socialism.

9 December 2013 Media Release, University of Otago, New Zealand


The number of children living in poverty has doubled since the 1980's in NZ.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 19:58
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Ya' think maybe John Hill's utopia ain't all it's cracked up to be?
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 20:03
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Probably about as perfect as the US, or the UK, or nearly anywhere for that matter.

In fact, you only have to look at the numbers of people, from otherwise affluent countries, who wish to emigrate to NZ to see how others see it. Utopia it ain't, but by multiple admissions from y'all, the US appears to be in a lot worse state. Just sayin'.

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Old 15th Jul 2014, 20:09
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It would be a pretty good place to live.

If you could put up with all the lefty, anti nuke BS
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 20:40
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Nah! No one wants to come to NZ, best to stay well away from here it is such a terrible place!

All those little houses where tenants got the option on continuing to pay rent or buy the property. Even if you were not living in a 'State House' you could do what we did and get a mortgage from the state to build our first house, miserable little shack it was too with a depressing view..

.....yes, it even had a little garden shed (just like all the ones in the old picture I posted).

We also have roads in NZ, roads you can drive on every day without destroying your car. Except in Christchurch,

..... but they are different around there being very Anglican.

We may be socialists but we are very special socialists and we dont let just anyone join. It has always been that way but some people sought to take advantage and demanded that they be allowed entry rather than asking permission, we dont like that sort of shyte and told the US Navy to far cough. They have been sniffing around again lately trying to be all palesy-walsey again inviting us to go play at their place but it will never be the same again.
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Where is that ?

Looks very similar to places we drive along north of Christchurch to get up to the hills.


I've been in that sandy stuff when it liquifies, damn hard to get out of.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 20:54
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At least the French showed them !
Yes, the French surely did show them...they showed that countries such as NZ have no 'friends' or 'allies' and it is pointless trying to curry favour with the big boys of the world..

The Poms could not bring themselves to condemn the sinking of a UK registered ship by the Froggies, our Skippy Bros helped the culprits to escape justice and the Yanks would have come out in support of the Froggies if they had thought of it. The ANZUS treaty was shown to be worth nothing to NZ but being the sort of people we are we continue to hold up our end of the treaty every minute of every day.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:09
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I've been in that sandy stuff when it liquifies, damn hard to get out of.
Nothing too serious, Mr. 500. A good hose-off and some paper towels to dry it. It will be as good as new
 
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You mean it will "buff out"

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Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:16
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Yes, it will, unlike socialism that lingers for ever.
 
Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:26
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It would be a pretty good place to live
Detroit was a pretty good place to live in 1963, when I left it. The last Republican mayor of Detroit served until January, 1962. They've all been Democrats since. So if you're so inclined, trace the rise and fall of Detroit and overlay the chart
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:32
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The difference is, in NZ you can get away from it all by going bush
and avoid all the BS.

It is that easy out there, to an extent the same as Aus but easier
to feed oneself in NZ - fish, meat.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:40
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Actually Michigan is quite pleasant if you avoid the rot of Detroit, Flint, and a few other post-industrial cauldrons of detritus, so long as you can stand the freezing winter.

You can still buy a 40 acre plot with hardwoods, arable land, and a fresh water stream for under $100k US in rural Michigan. Such a plot would have ample deer, some wild pig and other game for survival. I would have done it long ago, but the lady of the house said she'd rather die than live off the land like that. I'd be quite happy in that setting.
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:45
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Ben (I feel this comment is almost too familiar)!

When you give up on Normal Law and dump that Airbus down for the last time, where are you going to retire (surely, despite your well earned pride, not in the Motor City).

I was about to add surely but realized that might be an old joke!

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Old 15th Jul 2014, 21:50
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We're headed for Adelaide. The first run will be for 6 months, living on the beach at Glenelg while we scout the area, keeping our home in Michigan if we want to back out, assess that we really want to do it, and if it's all a go, buy a compound in Gawler-Barossa.

Mind you, this plan changes week to week.
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