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Old 13th Jul 2014, 22:57
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always wondered why the US hasn't lifted the embargo.
Bad grace and bug up their collective arse...

Sides a growing understanding that none of their pilots can fly a non precision approach these days..l

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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:00
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Yea, most likely bug up the arse syndrome and we need no more evidence than that they execute the same policies against countries where no property claims are involved.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:04
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In reality, the US doesn't impede Cuba's ability to trade with others and run their economy as they see fit (why does this reality escape otherwise intelligent people?)

US policy is not to trade with Cuba, which is within our remit. Everyone else is free to do so, and does.

The woes and travails of the Cuban people can be laid entirely at the feet of virulent Socialism, and are not caused by US policy.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:23
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Presumably if/when America ever gets back what they think is their's they will immediately pass it on to the Spanish.
One more time your appalling knowledge of history is noted.

Cuba was a free, separate nation years before Castro showed up on the scene. In 1898 to be exact.

By the way, when are you going to give back New Zealand to the Maoris?
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In reality, the US doesn't impede Cuba's ability to trade with others a..
That is incorrect and the US restrictions of shipping that calls on Cuba is an example.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:30
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The woes and travails of the Cuban people can be laid entirely at the feet of virulent Socialism, and are not caused by US policy
Exactly, the only time Cuba has been able to sustain itself in the last 3 decades has been due to massive subsidies from Soviets and Venezuela.
Soviets pulled back and Venezuela has been subsidizing Cuba to the tune of 115-135Billion per year supplying 2/3rds of its oil.
The socialist government in Venezuela is running out of money and has threatened to pull Cuban subsidies.
It appears the concept of "trade" means subsidies by the socialism definition.



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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:30
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The woes and travails of the Cuban people can be laid entirely at the feet of virulent Socialism, and are not caused by US policy.
I watched a very interesting program on TV a while ago about how certain things are being relaxed in Cuba.

And shock horror, they allow business to open and trade for profit
and they focused on a guy who bought and sold house items like
kitchen sinks.

I thought that was Capitalism !

But it was a good show.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:35
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1898, that was when America, with others, drove Spain from Cuba. Cuba belongs to Spain so give it back!

By the way, when are you going to give back New Zealand to the Maoris?
Good question so why not start a thread on that topic?
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:36
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I watched a very interesting program on TV a while ago about how certain things are being relaxed in Cuba.

And shock horror, they allow business to open and trade for profit
and they focused on a guy who bought and sold house items like
kitchen sinks.

I thought that was Capitalism !

But it was a good show.
It's capitalism when it just happens without anyone having to "allow it". Read the article I posted, a few posts back, about how Cuban government "allows" citizens to buy and sell automobiles and how car dealerships are government owned with prices out of this world.
 
Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:45
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1898, that was when America, with others, drove Spain from Cuba. Cuba belongs to Spain so give it back!
It was called the Spanish American War, key word being WAR.

The US did not keep Cuba after we defeated Spain, it became a nation, just like New Zealand is a nation. We cannot give Cuba back to Spain because it is not ours to give back.

If Cuba belongs to anyone, look up the Caribe Indians.

Not that it will do any good to them, as the Spanish, French and the English killed them all off. There are none left.
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You could start by giving GITMO to the Spaniards!

What's the big deal about war? Does that somehow change the issue?
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:53
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You could start by giving GITMO to the Spaniards!
I wouldn't suggest that if I was you John, then more rendition flights to far away places would have to occur and open up the possibility that prisoners would be tortured where you lefties don't have any say, control or knowledge !
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:54
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You could start by giving GITMO to the Spaniards!
Now that would annoy the Castro brothers.



By the way, we still couldn't, Guantanamo Bay belongs to Cuba, not us, not Spain, we're just renting it.
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Guantanamo Bay is rented from the Republic of Cuba who took it by force from the Spaniards. Just give it back to Spain.
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Old 13th Jul 2014, 23:59
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Back to circling the wagons by yourself again are you John?

Because that is all you are doing, going around in circles.
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 00:02
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cuba

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Cuba debate/issues notwithstanding...

your comment..
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If Cuba belongs to anyone, look up the Caribe Indians.

Not that it will do any good to them, as the Spanish, French and the English killed them all off. There are none left."

Extraordinary comment coming from you.
I guess you are forgetting about the history of the "American ' Indians!

Glass houses/stones .. I think!!!
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 00:09
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Back to circling the wagons by yourself again are you John?

Because that is all you are doing, going around in circles.
Is that the best you can do?

You have not yet explained the significance of 'WAR' in your earlier post.
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 00:12
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Extraordinary comment coming from you.
I guess you are forgetting about the history of the "American ' Indians!
I am part American Indian. So I do believe I'm much more knowable about what the European invaders of the Americas did to the indigenous inhabits than you.

Giving small pox infected blankets to American Indians was a little British trick.

Talk about living in glass houses indeed.
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 00:19
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No patch of land on earth belongs to anyone. It's yours only if you can defend it.

That's the significance of war, JH.
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Old 14th Jul 2014, 00:19
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Enough John, I'm not going to play your word games.

In the infamous words of President Bill Clinton; "Define sex."

I know what 'sex' means just as I do 'war'.

Sad that you do not.

However, if you insist, you may play by yourself, something I'm very sure you excel at.
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