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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 00:00
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Stuk mic lands pilot in hot water

Houston Pilot Suspended For Slurs, Swearing Over Air Traffic Radio - Houston News Story - KPRC Houston

I guess this guy will be VERY careful next time he speaks.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 00:35
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The only issue here is why the microphone got stuck, since the resulting interference with normal ATC communication was a potential safety issue. What he actually said was irrelevant. As usual, the media circus concentrates on what was said rather than being concerned about the reason for a stuck mic. Rather like hysterical reporting about a nuclear plant that has killed no one while ignoring a tsunami that has killed 23,000.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 00:51
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What boggles my mind is not his defamatory comments about certain groups. While I don't share his opinions he is entitled to them, although not necessarily entitled to express them on-the-job. No, what boggles me is that he expects his employer to act as a dating service/marriage broker for him! I wonder where that perk was outlined in his contract. Did he expect SW to provide so many dates per month with a certain percentage ending in a sexual encounter? Wow...just..wow.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 01:00
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Usual media bullsh*t - how many of us have had conversations along those lines (albeit, maybe not using the same choice of words?!), and I don't mean in work, but in countless other situation?

Southwest shouldn't have to apologise either, that it was one of their employees is irrelevant - did NASA apologise (and were they expected to?) when one of its astronauts went crazy and tried to reduce the gene pool a few years ago?

This guy is just unlucky, flying is a largely a mix of very conservative, regimented guys in the front and a wide range of all colours and creeds down the back. This sort of chat will happen anywhere, in a cockpit, in bars, garages...anywhere, in fact, where men get together. Simple as.

I'm also of the opinion that giving training in tolerance is pretty much a waste of time, pilots are on the whole an intelligent (...), relatively worldly wise bunch who aren't going to change their view by someone speaking 'street' and trying to get them to 'enthuse' about anything (we've all seen those videos), or the like. It's just moronic, better to say 'we don't care what they are, but keep your opinions to yourself in work' and be done with it!

One final thing I learnt from this: I'll make sure I never request a Houston base if I work for Southwest, it sounds rubbish!
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 01:02
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So-the airline CEO apologizes and the FA say this is not enough?

Stomach not good enough to finish the video.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 02:36
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He might've had a point, I saw a crew manifest pinned up on the wall a while back of a US based airline and the purser was born in 1921.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 02:44
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Don't be so sure that the mike was "stuck". I'm thinking divine intervention from an FO who was tired of his hateful rants.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 02:51
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The only issue here is why the microphone got stuck, since the resulting interference with normal ATC communication was a potential safety issue. What he actually said was irrelevant. As usual, the media circus concentrates on what was said rather than being concerned about the reason for a stuck mic.
While I don't disagree that the potential interference with air traffic control was a safety issue, I'd be interested in whether it would be viewed in a different light if it had gone into the cabin over the PA, instead of out over the radio? Would the airline have handled it differently?
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 03:03
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If he's smart he won't be ordering any coffee or crew meals for the foreseeable future.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 05:33
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I know of at least one crew who habitually takes off their headsets for a few moments if they want to rant someone else !
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 06:20
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As I have said before, he is entitled to have his views, rightly or wrongly. If at the stage of the flight where they can have a personal conversation between pilots they can say what they like, as long as one party is not offended.

The only issue is clogging up the airwaves.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 06:49
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Disagree

I have to disagree with other posters.

This is a bag of law suits. Anyone who has worked for a large US company knows that violating company policy on sexual harassment can be grounds for dismissal. Unfortunately this guy is now a huge liability for the company. Very sad, might have just been a bad day for the guy. Taints the entire airline and industry.

Can't believe that the previous posters can't see what's wrong with the rant, whether on or off the mic. Capt is supposed to set a good example for the entire crew. Hardly sterile cockpit and a task focussed pre-flight briefing.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 07:21
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US political correctness gone mad.

How silly. Time America grew up and focused on the important things in life. This incident means nothing at all.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 08:05
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Hardly sterile cockpit and a task focussed pre-flight briefing
Maybe if you read the links, you'll see the FAA acknowledge it was not a sterile cockpit period, nor pre-flight
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 08:07
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xcitation,
I bet you're a barrel of laughs to fly with. Pilots like to enjoy themselves not have some dude give them a 'task focussed pre-flight briefing'.

If you've got respect it's not required.
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Can't believe that the previous posters can't see what's wrong
with the rant, whether on or off the mic.
Believe it!

I don't think you are invited out to many overnight pissups with the
crew are you. With that attitude at 42 you're on your way to becoming
a despondent old curmudgeon you know.

Sad.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 10:52
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A question

As an SLF I do wonder why US female cabin crew are so much older than their European equivalents, at least from my impression - it would seem there is a 15 to 20 year mean age difference, I cannot even remember seeing a female cabin crew member in her twenties on a transatlantic flight in the past twenty years. I wonder, does cabin crew rating takes more seniority than pilot rating?

E.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 11:05
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An answer

We have age-discrimation laws and, by now, corporate and social customs against hiring young, single, female eye-candy, then disposing of them when they marry or turn 35. National and Branniff are gone. Instead we've got Hooters.
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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 11:19
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it does really beg the question though, why are there so few hot stewardesses out there any more...

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Old 23rd Jun 2011, 11:59
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Hot stewies

The hot ones are working in private aviation.
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