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Old 10th Feb 2011, 09:58
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And the best Cold Beer is...

YouTube - VB Victoria Bitter (Australian ad) 1988

Ok. So the best Cold Beer is Vic. So where did all this "Vee Bee" stuff come from? What cultural shift transpired that resulted in the Best Cold Beer In The World with the most Fair Dinkum ads EVER being denigrated into a product called "Vee Bee"? It began in Sydney, that's where.

I was a Herald Boy in the early 1970s. I sold Melbourne's afternoon newspaper "The Herald" from a city street corner. I made 60 cents per 100 newspapers sold. It was a living..

My corner was near the Carlton United Breweries in Swanston St. It was far from the usual city action, but as a 12 year old screaming the war cry :
" YEEERALL...FIIIINNNEEELLL!!!" I got good tips from the brewery workers on their way home who wanted some thing to read on the tram and who had also sampled too much of their employers product.

My first beer was a CUB product: Fosters Larger; a beer that no Aussie in their right mind would drink these days. Quite soon(and probably seduced by the ads) Victoria Bitter became the beverage of choice. For many years the question "whatilyahavmate?" was answered with "Apotavicthanks.." A nice cold Pot of VIC was the way to go a a Friday after work in Melbourne and 500,000 Melbourne bogans could not be wrong.

I'm not quiet sure when, but one day it became the fashion to drink Melbourne Bitter. Maybe because we were 19 and hung out with all these student nurses who were from the country: YouTube - Melbourne Bitter beer: Hawking Brothers - TV commercial

So what would be a Christmas in Melbourne without a beer strike? Every year just before Christmas, the CUB workers would, without fail, go on strike. It was always perfect timing. The strike also gave us in Melbourne the chance to sample the other products that were brewed in other parts of Oz to cater for our demand for the Amber Liquid:

Swan Export--The reason it was exported became clear.
Tooths -- Yeah, like Bad Breath.
XXXX -- some how spoiled en-route.
Coopers---Coopers Now, this is different story--- This stuff from South Australia was the Nectar Of The Ghods! It changed the beer drinking pattern of a generation and no one wanted Melbourne Bitter anymore.

Coopers Beer is the quintessential Aussie tough guy beer that is at home on the harbour or in some outback pub as ever you'll find. Believe me, these guys are after a Coopers after a day of Hard Yakka:

YouTube - Hard Yakka - Fit for a Hard Day's Yakka

And only wankers from Sydney drank 'Vee Bee' as Good old Victoria Bitter had been renamed by some latte drinking, porsche driving, poofter ad executive from Sydney named Siimon.

Personally, I think that where ever you go in the world, the local beer is always the best.

And when in Melbourne, I always like a nice cold Vic!

And if all that doesn't convince you:

YouTube - Classic VB Ad 1

What's your favourite beer and why?

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Windhoek Export. A close second is Windhoek Lager.

This should close the discussion. There is no competition here.
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Personally, I think that where ever you go in the world, the local beer is always the best.
Unless you come from Queensland. I hate to say it, it's very unpatriotic and I'm glad the Castelmaine brewery is back operating after the floods...but to be honest, it would be hard to tell the difference between flood water and XXXX.

Actually Dear Ol' Dad told me that they faithfully drank XXXX in Brisbane until the 1974 floods shut the factory down, causing the local pubs to 'import' beer from the south for the first time. People discovered that VB et al produced much nicer beer than Castelmaine and their market saturation has declined ever since. One also remembers the ill-fated Power's Bitter that had top notes of soap and a lingering pukey aroma. I will admit that XXXX Draught is quite reasonable, but not widely available.

Me, I like Little Creatures and some of the James Squire range. I always liked the 'Best cold beer is Vic, Victoria Bitter' campaign and thought it was a shame when they got rid of it in the 1990s. I stopped drinking VB after that
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Having once accidently tasted Fosters I wouldn't touch any australian beer with a very long bargepole.

A nice cold or any day
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Bloody Fosters ran a worldwide marketing campaign about being the Australian Beer, forgetting that most Aussies wouldn't drink the stuff unless all other avenues had been exhausted, including suspiciously coloured liqueurs, Uncle Guido's grappa and bathtub vodka. Try Little Creatures before you write the whole industry off !

That said, Hoegaarden is a really nice beer.
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Old 10th Feb 2011, 10:21
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You'd have to be dying of thirst to drink Foster's
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First time I went to Oz, the guys I was working with took me out for a liquid lunch. I didn't know then that they had a bet on to see what beer I'd order - they were going to disassociate themselves from me until the end of time if I ordered a Fosters.

Fortunately I did the right thing by saying : "What local beer can I order? I know Fosters is shit and only Pommy tourists drink it."
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The best cold beer is generally the first one.

Although I'm generally a cider drinker, I enjoy the odd pint (and the even ones, too) of Deuchar's IPA from the Caledonian Brewery, the proposed venue for the next Edinburgh mini-bash.

Any news, Ms Picker?
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It's a cold pint of Guinness served in Eire. Anything else, from anywhere else in the world is by comparison a glass of missed opportunity. Might be stout to you, it's beer to me.

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Baltika 3... aka "Troika"...

The times I have forgotten my name after drinking this stuff....
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Echo Magnus P's post - remember Ice Cold In Alex?
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"What local beer can I order? I know Fosters is shit and only Pommy tourists drink it."
I can see the nods all 'round: "Yeah, this blokes alright..."

Waddja drink after that??
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Echo Magnus P's post - remember Ice Cold In Alex?


Well I remember Sylvia Sims... quite likely the most attractive woman I have ever seen on film (at least in 1959!) - now a few cold ones with her would be most welcome!
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YouTube - VB Ad for uni students

At times , I 've forgotten HER name after drinking this stuff!

YouTube - NEW Brilliant Coopers Beer AD!
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"What local beer can I order? I know Fosters is shit and only Pommy tourists drink it."
A smart answer, whatever country you're in. I discovered some great Indian beers on the recommendation of locals and also Royal Challenge whiskey which is quite palatable and a tenth of the price of imports.

I had an actor friend who starred in a local beer ad. The script was pretty much Aussie Beer Ad 101, where he had to wear a big hat, stand in an old fashioned pub and swig a beer. Trouble was, there were production problems and they had to do ten retakes due to lighting issues. After number ten he told them 'fellahs, you better get this right 'cause I can only swig one more beer and stay upright!' They got it right.

Anthill, that's fabulous ! I got through degree number one thanks to Vic and sincerely hope we haven't met .

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I can and do enjoy most beers, living in Belgium I’m somewhat spoiled. I have about eight different varieties in my cold store at the moment.

It would be easier to list the ones I can’t drink – Heineken; Fosters; Bud, Bud lite et al; Newcastle Brown.

… And Hoegaarden blanche, unfortunately (sorry Lon). Along with the other Belgian ‘white’ (i.e. wheat) beers. The much stronger Hoegaarden Grand Cru is a lovely drop, though.
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When I lived in Malaysia, the first pint of cold Tiger beer after work, always hit the spot.
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Sat on the beach in San Marco, close to Sciacca, Sicily.

Kids and Mrs CD safely dispatched up the very steep hill for the kids tea / bath. Me left with the bags / toys / towels to carry up same steep hill.

Ice cold Moretti, 660ml bottle, sat on the warm beach beach in blissful peace and quiet, watching the sun go down. Just me and the mediteranian. Sustinance for the slog up the hill with the bags. As close to heaven as you can get.
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The best cold beer does not exist, in my book. Beer is meant to have a flavour, which icy coldness wipes out by numbing the mouth and throat. As an Englishman born in Kent, home of hop gardens and warm ales, for me the only function of ice-cold beers is as an internal coolant in tropical climates. And frankly, chilled water or lemonade serves just as well for this purpose.

As for the best beer served at room temperature, a canal-side pub at Tipton, West Midlands, brews its own absolutely ambrosian nectar called Lumphammer. Now THAT is a beer!
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