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Old 19th Jan 2011, 13:31
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Australians..

What's that all about then?

Never been, but I've a good number of ozmates (mostly that I've got to know from here over the years) and sometimes I struggle to work out how they tick. Do they think the same about us poms?

Perhaps it's a culture thing.

(this isn't meant to be a oz / pom slagoffathon, I'm just curious...)
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 13:48
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Like you, also never been, lots of friends and acquaintances there. One thing that makes me shake my head is their attitude of "she'll be allright" (so don't bother about it) which compared to my own fussiness about being prepared for every eventuality make them look slightly careless.

Interesting article by Germain Greer in last Saturday's "Guardian" about last year's meteorologist's warnings of the flooding in Queensland expected for winter 2010 / early spring 2011, and how they only reaction was the aforementiond "she'll be all right". Which, she wasn't.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 13:51
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Its "She'll be right, mate" not all right. The difference is small but significant. The greatest compliment I ever received was:

"Hey, You're all right!" pause... "For a Pom"
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 14:07
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I can't think of a better thread to post this in...

A couple in Australia was rescued after attempting to float down a river near Melbourne on an inflatable sex doll.
Australian Teens Rescued After Using Sex Doll as Raft
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 14:25
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Interesting article by Germain Greer in last Saturday's "Guardian" about last year's meteorologist's warnings of the flooding in Queensland expected for winter 2010 / early spring 2011, and how they only reaction was the aforementiond "she'll be all right". Which, she wasn't.
Winter 2010 to early spring 2011 is over a year. It floods every year in Queensland. Predicting there will be a flood in the next year is like predicting that the sun will rise in the East tomorrow. Even if they predicted flooding between winter 2010 and spring 2011 that was significantly worse than usual, what exactly do you expect us to do? Evacuate low lying areas for the entire year? Build 5m+ levees along the banks of every river? Maybe we should all run around like chooks with our heads cut off shouting that the world is going to end. Not that I expect anything less from Germain Greer. She isn't one to let an opportunity to criticise Australia and Australians pass her by without laying the boot in.

There's something about a particular type of "intelligent" Australian that makes them want to move overseas and criticise everything about Australia while admitting none of its good points. Some people call it cultural cringe.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 16:09
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Only been to Oz once, and that was to Sydney so maybe not representative of Oz in the same way London doesn't represent life in England. However everyone I met was really helpful and the light hearted banter was great. I was surprised at how multi cultural the place was. Loads of Chinese, Vietnamese etc as well as European Types.

Here in the Middle East there are a lot of Australians and they seem to be very good at coping and getting the job done without worrying about all the paperwork. Pretty relaxed bunch overall
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 16:58
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Lived in Perth and then the Wongan Hills for 8 years. Met some of the kindest, friendliest people you could hope to find. Not so very different to the people here. Still think of WA as my second home.

Amazingly beautiful country, super peeps, only drawback is the amount of bitey, stinging animals-with-attitude, especially snakes .........
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 17:39
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"she'll be allright" (so don't bother about it)
With respect, you've misunderstood, timmcat. It's 'She'll be right' but not 'so don't bother about it'.

It's 'She'll be right' (because with the help that will be forthcoming from me mates if I need it, and with this piece of 4 by 2 and some bailing wire, I'm fairly confident I'll get by, without any bloody paperwork either.)

I'd add that it's subtly different than 'muddling through'.

Butfli, welcome mate. You'll find most of the Poms here are OK, and you're dead right about the Australians who retreat to London then jeer at us. They're better there than here, and what's more I suspect that Germaine Greer was parroting what someone else has told her. She can't resist spouting an opinion contrary to the accepted thinking.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 17:44
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Bandaide, you pussy, it sounds like you ran into a common Australian housefly, caught in one of the little spidey webs you find here and there. The actual spiders are quite frightening.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 18:00
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OFSO, you lost 99.9% of your Australian audience the moment you mentioned **that woman's** name. She has about as much credibility Downunda as Tony Blair had/has in and after his very latter years as PeeEmm.

Someone already mentioned Bill Bryson. timmcat, if you really want to learn about Australians and weren't just shitstirring with your initial post, you could do a lot worse than to seek out his book on Australia, "Bill Bryson Down Under". It's more than ten years old now, but Bryson, an American who has lived most of his adult life in the UK, has a very keen eye for whatever subject his chooses, and leaves his reader laughing aloud much of the time. His fixation on Australia's many poisonous creepy crawlies if most amusing.

Others have already explained quite well the nuances of "she'll be right". It's a survival mechanism, quite subtle in its own way, a cleverly disguised optimism, particularly in times of adversity. You'd go starkers (mad) trying to double guess the place at every turn (as too many newcomers do), so "she'll be right" and let's get on with it.

It's a land of extremes, and we (people who've come here in the last 200 or so years) are on the whole barely tolerated by The Land. It lets us stay, but very much on its own terms - (look at the last few weeks; even capital city dwellers were just given a lesson as to who's the boss).

The next thing you'll hear about those vast areas that were under 14 metres (!) of water last week is that they're suffering from crippling drought (which much of it was for the last nine years). Dinks. (Which is short for 'fair dinkum', which I'll leave for someone to explain if it needs to be explained.)
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If Orstralians are anything like those portrayed in Neighbours or Home & Away then I wouldn't want to know them.

Fortunately, I've met some, and they weren't.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 18:14
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Others have already explained quite well the nuances of "she'll be right". It's a survival mechanism, quite subtle in its own way, a cleverly disguised optimism, particularly in times of adversity.
Well said, Wiley. 'She'll be right' is said as much for one's own benefit as anyone else's.

As to understanding 'The Land', the Australian aborigines understand more about it than we European immigrants ever will, but I suggest anyone find the short story 'The Drover's Wife' by Henry Lawson, and read the poem 'My Country' written by a 19 year old Australian girl, homesick in London. It was originally called 'Core Of My Heart, My Country'.

Here's a bit of it:

I love a sunburnt country,

A land of sweeping plains,

Of rugged mountain ranges,

Of droughts and flooding rains,

I love her far horizons,

I love her jewel-sea,

Her beauty and her terror -

The wide brown land for me!
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 18:55
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I meet many people from other lands and they all fit into two categories with regard to Australia: 1. they have been to Australia and loved it, and 2. they intend to go to Australia (obviously the largest group). Never mind that some think Australia is just next door to Germany but that is another story.
The second category always talks about the dangerous animals, but to be fair, I lived my early years in Aus and did a lot of traveling, camping, etc and was never attacked by any insect or animal that could do me harm, nor were any of my family or friends. My cousin was bitten by her horse once. I ate my share of pythons and rabbits, even some witchety grubs, so I was top of the food chain. Even the mozzies do not carry diseases.
I guess the really dangerous ones avoid us, don't see us as food etc. Shake your boots out before you put them on and she'll be right.
I will spend time exaggerating the dangers of the sharks, crocs, funnelweb spiders etc, but nobody seems to see that I am taking the mickey.
I live in Alaska now and have been chased by bears more than once, and had close encounters (usually friendly) with moose, but nobody seems as excited about that.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 19:33
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"If being chased by a kangaroo, venomous or otherwise, stop suddenly, crouch down and the kangaroo will bounce straight over you, giving you time to run away in the opposite direction."

"If a goanna (giant or normal) is running towards you, lie prone on the ground and let it thunder past. Do not stand still in terror; the goanna will think you are a tree and will run up you, lacerating you with its talons."

Next week - hazardous fauna in rural areas.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 19:36
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What about the drop bears?
I think we should be told . . .
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 19:40
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Sshh...
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 19:50
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vulcanised, I suspect I'm not the only Australian who can honestly say I've never watch an episode (in its entirety) of either of the shows you mentioned. Not once. I see about 30 seconds of the latter if I switch over for the 7 o'clock news. That's too much for me.
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 19:56
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Come on, MTOW, and you never rushed home from work to watch Sophie Lee presenting the Bugs Bunny Show on TV?
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Old 19th Jan 2011, 20:14
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Am I missing something RJM?
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