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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 18:11
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RGB, is that how they start AF1, now? They don't need the APU, just the finger and a lot of hot air. Thankfully they have just the man for the job.
 
Old 2nd Jan 2013, 19:47
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that's right Dushan, no APU needed. Pull on the proffered finger, deal with the resultant aaaah, Jet Blast, and away we go.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 20:46
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The top 2% of American taxpayers are going to pay a lot more tax we hear.

Will this be enough to ballance the budget? will it be enough to even dent the deficit? and in our part of the world the press are trumpeting how the crisis has been averted.

Who would be the most stupid? politicians or the press?
 
Old 2nd Jan 2013, 20:59
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Don't look now but the Republican's are eating their own. Well, so much for unity.

The speaker of the House of Representatives, John Boehner is being made scapegoat, tarred, and, feathered for NOT spending money to help save the poor, pathetic hurricane victims in the predominantly republican northern district within New Jersey after Hurricane Sandy. Sixty billion dollars, NOT used…republican representatives are saying.

Oh the irony.

Governor Christie, a republican after my own heart, has started the crusade to remove the speaker by pointing out that it was he, the speaker of the House, that denied legislation to help those so unfortunate.

Strike Up the Band!


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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:06
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No, No, The American People. (in order of your asking).
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:15
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prospector, any aversion of a crisis is a temporary phenomenon, until the delta betwen revenue and expense is significantly reduced. It would take a generation to fix the root problem, but where the leadership is that could get the fixes (and some pain along the way) put into place remains an open question.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:18
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Originally Posted by prospector View Post
Who would be the most stupid? politicians or the press?
The people who believe either one of those.

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:19
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Sixty billion dollars
Which nearly half of are Pork Bills giving money to programs that have not a bloody thing to so with Hurricane Sandy. They were added to the Bill in the Senate, by both parties.

The House sent a bill back to the Senate with no pork. Reid will most likely sit on this bill as he has for about every other bill from the House.

Hell yes the House should have voted it down. The Senate needs to send a bill that gives funds only to the victims of Hurricane Sandy and it will mostly pass unanimously.

The same crap was tried after Katrina.

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:21
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Governor Christie, a republican after my own heart, has started the crusade to remove the speaker by pointing out that it was he, the speaker of the House, that denied legislation to help those so unfortunate.
Maybe fatso should run up to his newly found friend, The Bamster, and ask what happened to all the red tape that was supposed to be eliminated...
 
Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:25
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The people who believe either one of those.
Yes, should have added that line. Unfortunately, that is the major downfall of the Democratic system I believe. The only qualification needed for a vote is passing a certain age is not really good enough.
 
Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:28
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Grover Cleveland, that last Democrat who understood the Constitution, said the "people support the government, the government doesn't support the people" when vetoing a bill to aid drought-stricken farmers in Texas (Texas Seed Bill). We formed a government, by the consent of the governed, to "secure our rights"; not pay for our homes built on sand; our retirements when we forgot to save for old age; not to save foreigners in benighted nations; not to salve your sorry, sentimental guilts.

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:29
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Voting, indeed any participation in republican government, should be strictly conditioned on 1) ownership of real property and 2) payment of taxes.

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:30
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Apparently you did not view the governor’s speech. All that pork stuff was addressed clearly and concisely.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:34
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Silly question:

Why, as the resident of a state that doesn't have earthquakes or hurricanes and only has a few tornadoes and floods, should I be the insurance company for those that choose to live in areas that they know, unequivocally, are susceptible to these things?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:34
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The Constitution is a living document. The ability to change it and reinterpret it within the bounds of common sense, was the great and most ingenious gift from our founding fathers. Making it difficult, was the predetermined work required.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:37
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Hear Hear...

As Barry boy said... You have to have some skin in the game... Right now, half the voters have none...
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:39
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Because Airborn...

Your membership in the National Club supersedes statehood membership when the National Government decides that it is necessary. “That which is not left the states shall be….ect ect.”

Just pay and desist please.

Crime in Italy, you would think some of these people had government 101 in their red state schools....
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:44
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As usual you miss the point. The feral government was not set up, nor does the Constitution allow for, the redistribution of wealth amongst the various states...

Read up son, read up...
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:48
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Spike,

I have enjoyed being bemused by your youthful naivete. But this one has me astonished:

“That which is not left the states shall be….ect ect.”
Where'd you get that one?

It's the states that have the powers not enumerated in the Constitution for the federal government.

Out of curiosity, did you go to college? If you did I'd be interested in knowing where.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 21:50
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Ah, but in a living, newly interpreted, Constitution wealth distribution is the key. Just ask the guy who is distributing, what?, tons of burnt kerosene across the country and over the Pacific on his way to home State.
 

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