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Old 31st Oct 2012, 16:10
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The climate change issue, possibly the most important issue to ever face mankind has been completely ignored during this farcical 'campaign'.

I wonder what the responses would have been to this question? (This was uploaded several years ago).


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Old 31st Oct 2012, 16:41
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Re-entry:

Please elucidate on just what it is you want a current or future president to do to stop the rise of the oceans, the inundation of New York, and eventually the demise of the planet.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 16:48
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Just like Bush did right Con ? Or do I remember him continuing his vacation for another couple of days after Katrina and not visiting the disaster region for some 4 days ?
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:12
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Just like Bush did right Con ? Or do I remember him continuing his vacation for another couple of days after Katrina and not visiting the disaster region for some 4 days in order to free up the resources that are normally used when AF-1 comes to town?

Fixed it for you LAJ.
 
Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:20
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Having had AF-1 on our tarmac years ago after a major hurricane, that is absolutely the last thing you want, despite LAJ's belief otherwise.

If the president wants to see what's going on, fly to the edge of the affected area, then take helicopters in. The presidential entourage and the 747 just get in the d*mned way and make it impossible to use a large portion of the airport for actual relief work.

I've flown numerous political dignitaries after natural disasters and in every case, without exception, I would have preferred to have 200 pounds more fuel than some idiot in Dockers and an L.L. Bean fishing vest.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:25
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200 pounds more fuel
Is that all Hillary claims on the manifest?
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:26
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The office itself is mainly a symbolic one; its power is in its ability to motivate the greater good that reposes in American citizens.

I am having a helluva time coming up with a circumstance in which Obama used it in that way, instead of for self aggrandizement.

Expecting applause for what one is supposed to do in the first place is part of early childhood development. One learns to accept responsibility without needing a "good job, Barry!".

I do not expect Obama to change, should he win. He is the most self centered individual in public record.

And easily the biggest liar.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:28
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Is that all Hillary claims on the manifest?
Don't know... but Marilyn Quayle was no bargain either... yes, Marilyn Quayle.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:31
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Perhaps the media the Obama supporters are so surprised that in this case that President Obama actually did what he was hired to do,
one would supposed con, that there wasn't much else he could do with his time instead.. it wasn't good golfing weather.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:35
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The climate change issue, possibly the most important issue to ever face mankind has been completely ignored during this farcical 'campaign'.
re-entry..

most people, apart from the most fervent yurt dwelling yogurt knitters have sussed the AGW/CC/CAGW (soon to be cooling) scam.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 17:35
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Just like Bush did right Con ? Or do I remember him continuing his vacation for another couple of days after Katrina and not visiting the disaster region for some 4 days ?
After Katrina Bush waived the Jones Act in two days. After and during the BP spill and recovery, Obama never waived the Jones Act, depriving the US of the best oil removal equipment in the world, just to protect his union buddies.

Oh, and no President since most likely Roosevelt is ever really on holiday/vacation. Including Obama.

Don't believe everything the media says when they praise Obama and criticize Bush.

Bush made a lot of mistakes when he was President, but Katrina was not one of them. If you want to blame someone over the aftermath of Katrina, you need to look a lot closer to New Orleans, like the mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana.

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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:12
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There's a big difference in the way folks behave after a disaster, and how they recover:

Some, mostly out of the big urban areas, get down to work, shovels and chain saws at the ready, help their neighbors and fix the damage. See Joplin, Oklahoma, Fargo/Grand Forks, and New England after Irene. Mississippi and Alabama after Katrina. By the time government assistance arrives they are well on their way. They have plans for their future.

Others sit around moaning and waiting for someone else to fix them. They had no plans for recovery, and their local politicians preferred to keep them that way. See Louisiana after Katrina, much of the Mississippi basin during their annual flood, and a big part of Cedar Rapids. Government expenditure skyrockets, but little is actually done to prevent a recurrence.

As previously noted, its the state and local authorities who provide relief. The Feds just need to stay out of the way.

I'll leave it to you all to realize which approach is favored by the Demos.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:13
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After watching Governor Christie dealing with the aftermath of Sandy, I'm struck with one thought.

Damn, he'd make a great President.

Maybe in 2016, who knows.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:16
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Good work Obama on the handling of Sandy
Yeah, Barry told the affected to go to a government website for information.

He overlooked one minor issue.

THEY DON"T HAVE ANY FRIGGIN ELECTRICITY

Maybe he can get Elizabeth Warren can send up some smoke signals.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:19
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like the mayor of New Orleans
...or the dickwad Mayor of Atlantic City.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie ripped Atlantic City Mayor Lorenzo Langford on Monday evening for supposedly asking residents to stay in city shelters instead of evacuating.

“Despite my admonition to evacuate, he gave them comfort for some reason to stay,” Christie said at a 5:30 p.m. news briefing.

Christie said the result is “a large number of people” still in Atlantic City, “and at this juncture there’s no other way for us to go in and get them. They’re going to have to ride out the storm there until at least 7 o’clock tomorrow morning.”

Read more: Christie blames Atlantic City mayor for trapped residents - Darren Goode and Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:24
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I like Christie, too. He knows his stuff. Unfortunately he has no tact or diplomacy. Wouldn't make a good president.
And he'll need that lap-band surgery first.

I like that guy in West Virginia, too, Munchkin or whatever his name is. Looked very good at the mine accident a while back.

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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:28
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Please elucidate on just what it is you want a current or future president to do to stop the rise of the oceans, the inundation of New York, and eventually the demise of the planet.
1. Stop federal subsidies (tax-breaks) to fossil fuel industries.

2. Invest that money (i.e.our tax money) in renewable energy technologies.

3. Hope to God it's not too late.

4. If it is too late, then invest in geoengineering solutions to cool the earth.

As for the demise of planet earth, she will outlive us so many times over, it's not part of the discussion.

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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:36
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Try taking your argument over here re-entry.

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4710...debate-85.html

You may find some believers there.

It's on page 3 of Jet Blast.
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Old 31st Oct 2012, 18:59
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No point:- it's populated by Anthony Watts acolytes, i.e. for entertainment purposes only.

I prefer to look at more informative places such as tamino (open mind) and skeptical science.

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Old 31st Oct 2012, 19:22
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1. Stop federal subsidies (tax-breaks) to fossil fuel industries.

2. Invest that money (i.e.our tax money) in renewable energy technologies.

3. Hope to God it's not too late.

4. If it is too late, then invest in geoengineering solutions to cool the earth.

As for the demise of planet earth, she will outlive us so many times over, it's not part of the discussion.

Have you looked at the map of Eastern USA lately? From Florida to Virginia? Have you noticed a large indentation that matches every hurricane that goes through there? Do you think it happened over the last 400 years that humans have been "warming the earth" or did it happen over the 400 million years that hurricanes have been eating at it?

Yeah, right, we can do something to stop global warming. Maybe Obama can do it in the first 100 days of his second administration. Just like closing Gitmo...
 

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