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Old 28th Oct 2012, 04:32
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A good listen and wake up call about what happened in the Benghazi attack is on the big news web sites now.
The Navy Seal that disobeyed orders to stand down and fought several hours and was killed after many times after calling for support is very questionable for the USA government.
His father a retired attorney speaks out about this on Fox News and its not good.
Also Welfare mans refusal to answer questions about this is really pointing the finger at himself as to what went wrong.
Have to agree with this solders father, they had many hours to do something before his son was killed, this administration is guilty of murder.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 04:44
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Same as I heard watching the news today comparing to Watergate during the Nixon Administration.
No one was murdered there.
This one is very serious and Obama, Secretary of State, all to blame.
As the all watched this on real time cams as it happened.
Still they did nothing and told them to stand down.
Truth is coming out now.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 04:49
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I want to know if this is true about a Gen and an Admiral being replaced/relieved for preparing to move against Libya situation.
It's all over t w i t t e r

Here's links to some of the related stories.

The hidden real truth about Benghazi « Northeast Intelligence NetworkNortheast Intelligence Network

Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack » The Right Scoop -

Disturbing, Developing: Obama Caught Arming Al Qaeda, Reason For Libya Cover-Up « Pat Dollard

Lt. Gen. Mcinerney on Benghazi: Whoever gave the “stand down” order is responsible for killing ambassador » The Right Scoop -
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 05:04
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Well the stars are coming into alignment:

Notre Dame beat Oklahoma (sorry, Con!)

USC and Florida lost.

Now Romney should be able to finish the deal.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 05:19
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"agree it would have taken an order by the president to intervene."


Why the hell as CIC wouldn't you intervene if assets were available ?

Makes my mind boggle !


Although the other stories shed light on why he might not have.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 05:27
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Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack » The Right Scoop -
On the news today from another source confirmed this.
Seems there was almost 6 hours after the initial attack before this navy seal was killed and consulate completely overrun.
All the while asking for support and told to stand down.
While administration watched this on real live cam.
There is something really wrong with this picture.
Too bad if he does not get re elected now, he is labeled a murderer and Should be impeached even before the elections and prosecuted in full accordance with the law as a murderer.
Maybe thats why he wont answer the questions when asked.
The usa has many good black citizens that would have been a better president.
This one gives all of us white and black a bad name.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 05:55
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Here's the New York Times's (NYT) endorsement of Obama.
Well, they would, wouldn't they. It's a powerful box ticking exercise and with which whatever portion one might agree, or not, it's a useful tool in assessing the candidate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/op...ewanted=1&_r=1
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 05:59
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 06:09
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From page 2 of your link, CC

Mr. Obama gathered international backing for airstrikes during the Libyan uprising, and kept American military forces in a background role. It was smart policy.
Absolute bullcrap. The impetus for the introduction of the no-fly zones AND the use of NATO forces to give support to the rebellion in Libya came from the French and British, it was Sarkozy and Camerloon wot dun it and NOT Obama.

When the NYT tries to paint things like that then you know that there is nothing else in the "article" that can be trusted as "fact".
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 06:51
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I doubt CC disagrees. I suspect he was drawing attention to another episode of the liberal media bias.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 07:12
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The New York Times article linked above is the most fascinating thing I've read in weeks!
No, not the verbiage about the Obama endorsement: that's as expected and mostly "malarkey" as Old Joe would say.

But read the section about NYT's endorsements through the years, going back to the 1870's. In particular the NYT's on again off again support for FDR. And read their support for Carter in 1980 -- a replay, almost word-for-word of today. They stress Carter's incompetence, waffling, poor decision process, and support for cronies. They don't even mention the Iran hostage issue. And they conclude by supporting Carter mostly because he seems like a nice guy and his heart is in the right place!

Thanks, Cheetah -- made my evening!

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Old 28th Oct 2012, 07:17
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Oh, I wasn't trying to say he agreed with the NYT. In fact, I would say it's clear that he doesn't.

But the fabrications that are in the article have to be highlighted lest people like Turbine D and LAJ try to use the article as some sort of "proof" that He deserves a second term.



BTW. LAJ

The interview was, the report wasn't Obgraham.
And there are other "reports" out there using the Fox interview. Doesn't alter the fact that without Fox there would have been no interview to report, and since the source was Fox you cannot sit there and take some sort of sense of "righteousness" by decrying Fox at every other opportunity.

They are either biased liars or they are not, you cannot have a middle ground of saying they are sometimes right when it suits your argument, unless you want to make yourself look stupid by doing exactly that.


PS. Loved this bit in CC's link

Mr. Obama, however, has reversed Bush administration policies that chipped away at minorities’ voting rights and has fought laws, like the ones in Arizona, that seek to turn undocumented immigrants into a class of criminals.
Let me get this straight, an "undocumented", and therefore ILLEGAL, immigrant is not actually a criminal? Shit, I better get on the next flight to Mexico and jump the fence so I can reap the rewards of Obamacare and the welfare state......

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Old 28th Oct 2012, 07:21
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Roger that.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 07:58
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Once upon a time the NYT endorsed Eisenhower!

New York Times Endorsements Through the Ages - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com

Now the integrity of the newspaper's choice of editor, Mark Thompson, has been called into question as a man who might have known something and if he didn't then should have. That all sounds rather similar to an ill judged endorsement of Obama mixed in with a touch of Clinton to account for the lurid sex innuendos.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 10:22
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And there are other "reports" out there using the Fox interview. Doesn't alter the fact that without Fox there would have been no interview to report, and since the source was Fox you cannot sit there and take some sort of sense of "righteousness" by decrying Fox at every other opportunity.

They are either biased liars or they are not, you cannot have a middle ground of saying they are sometimes right when it suits your argument, unless you want to make yourself look stupid by doing exactly that.
I'll decry Fox, whenever I deem necessary hellsbrink. The fact of the matter is that it was interview not a piece of Fox opinion. Are Fox biased ? You bet they are and very badly so at that. I'm surprised they even aired the interview. Maybe it slipped past the editor
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 11:25
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Ah, so you're a hypocrite then.

Good to know.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 11:30
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More personal stuff hellsbrink ? You really are an angry little boy aren't you ?

Stick to making debating points. It's one of the ROE
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 11:43
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Something you should remember yourself, LAJ.

Now, how many examples shall we have about you "playing the man/men".......


Doesn't alter the matter of you decrying a source when their reports/views don't agree with your concepts yet using that same source as something to support your position when it suits you.
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 11:49
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For the last time hellsbrink, it was an interview not a piece of Fox opinion. Sorry you're finding that so hard to grasp. Move on, this is getting boring
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Old 28th Oct 2012, 12:36
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It's the little things that tell the real story...

NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Madonna drew boos and triggered a walkout by several concertgoers after she touted President Barack Obama on her "MDNA Tour" in New Orleans.

The Material Girl asked during Saturday night's performance: "Who's registered to vote?" She added: "I don't care who you vote for as long as you vote for Obama." Drawing boos in touting Obama over Republican Mitt Romney, Madonna followed: "Seriously, I don't care who you vote for ... Do not take this privilege for granted. Go vote."
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The boos, walkouts and her back pedal are indications all is not well in the State of White House.
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