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Old 10th Jul 2014, 17:20
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PacWest,

Couldn't get your link to work, but I know that site.

Here's the story, in case others had the same problem.

AP: ISIS has seized thousands of rockets with chemical warheads.

Iraq has informed the United Nations that the Islamic State extremist group has taken control of a vast former chemical weapons facility northwest of Baghdad where 2,500 chemical rockets filled with the deadly nerve agent sarin or their remnants were stored along with other chemical warfare agents.

Iraq’s U.N. Ambassador Mohamed Ali Alhakim said in a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon circulated Tuesday that “terrorist” groups entered the Muthanna site June 11 and seized weapons and equipment from the protection force guarding the facility.
Which begs the question; why were they not found in previous searches?
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 17:44
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Why were they "stored"?

If they were stored there....when did they get made and by whom?

I thought the Huggy Fluffs have told us there were no WMD in Iraq and that Bush Lied!

So I am confused here about how all this came to be.

Anyone have an explanation of how this happened?

Now added to 88 Pounds of Uranium taken from Mosul.....of what need did the Iraqi's have for that much Uranium I wonder?

There is something very strange going on here.

Who Lied?
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 17:49
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Those poor Germans.

Once again, misled by a messianic figure who gives a good speech:

US-German spying row getting worse | TheHill


Barry was supposed to heal the world, wasn't he?

Still, he's not holed up in a bunker:

Obama defends not visiting Texas border, saying he?s ?not interested in photo ops? - The Washington Post
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 17:49
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Rules of desert draughtsmanship

Before you draw a line in the sand you must satisfy 4 conditions:
You must be able to do what you threaten.

You must be willing to do what you threaten.

You must understand the consequences.

You must be willing to accept the consequences.
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 20:03
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Re Germany kicking out the top spy, for being a diplomat Obama has size 20 boots !
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 20:41
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Remember, his and Hildebeast's famous Russian "reset" seems to be resulting in a resetting of Russia's borders.

His ability to connect with the Muslim world in general, and the Middle East in particular, is well-known.

Hence this era of peace, tolerance, and cooperation currently being employed in the region.

Oh, China seems to like us more nowadays as well. Those bellicose statements are simply for internal consumption, no doubt.

Never mind about Japan and South Korea feeling assured by Obama's record of standing by his word.
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 20:53
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" Never mind about Japan and South Korea feeling assured by Obama's record of standing by his word."


Which is maybe why Japan has just signed a new closer defense agreement with Australia.

The saving grace for Japan is the US has so much invested in the country
in terms of infrastructure.
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 20:58
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And how much did we invest in Iraq only to not walk, but run away, led by Barry Obama, the part- Kenyan trackstar?

"Investment" (being another word for government expenditure via taxes) is unimportant to the wise Obama.

If China makes a South China Sea move via arms, watch how Barry reacts. I bet Japan will not be amused.
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 21:07
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The only saving grace is things like basing an Aircraft carrier fleet and air base is planned and funded a long way in advance !

I doubt Japan is pleased with the US or Obama in any way, shape or form.
Far too wishy washy.

Australia is becoming a beneficiary of the change in focus and I think we will have aircraft at Tindall as well as US Marines permanently based here in Aus in the future (as opposed to the current 6 month rotation that is used as a bribe to Marines in Japan as only the best get to come).
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 23:01
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Flash,

You left out the part about doing what you promised when you drew that line in the Sand. Otherwise, it was a Drawing Room exercise in futility.

The World now has no idea where the lines lay that it should not cross due to the lack of response by the Bamster.
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 23:05
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I can't think of many things the Obama has authorised (not counting Bin Laden, he just happened to be in the seat when found).

But the two US Navy Seal snatch raids into Libya, I was surprised that he allowed them as snatch raids are fraught with danger.
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Old 10th Jul 2014, 23:46
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141 Co-Sponsors for a No Confidence Vote on AG Eric Holder (who is in Contempt of Congress you might recall)!


Things are beginning to look bad for Holder if this gets a few more supporters in the House.

To Impeach Holder | National Review Online
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Old 11th Jul 2014, 01:06
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Before you draw a line in the sand you must satisfy 4 conditions:
You must be able to do what you threaten.

You must be willing to do what you threaten.

You must understand the consequences.

You must be willing to accept the consequences.
Agreed, and I understand point one is physically, but it it should really be swapped around with point two. In the last several conflicts, the west is hasn't been able to do what it threatened, or was severely limited by the willing part.

As I said, the toys are just one part of the equation.

And how much did we invest in Iraq only to not walk, but run away, led by Barry Obama, the part- Kenyan trackstar?
Beat me to it.

If China makes a South China Sea move via arms, watch how Barry reacts. I bet Japan will not be amused.
Thats what worries me, the whole thing is a game, with particular players continuously looking for advantage. With the present spineless one in the White house, I think there will be a lot of discussion in Beijing on what opportunity's to take advantage of, and there consequence's.
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Old 11th Jul 2014, 01:42
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The deep problem, though, is that our civilization has lost the zeal to defend itself against the barbarians, much like Rome.

US military might is one of the last bastions remaining to oppose the onslaught of the Left/Socialism/Communism, and now Islam, but it is shrinking by being sequestered, overtasked, resented by our allies, and its morale is declining.

We have chosen freely and democratically to elect to power leaders who facilitate these symptoms of our surrender and relative decline.

I've always opposed this outcome without much success, desiring and advocating that we adhere to the tenets of the social construct that made us powerful and rich, bolstered by the Constitution, but I lost. That everyone should be equally destitute seems to be the popular consensus.

US efforts to order a world under rule of law and humane constraints have obviously failed, our commitment to those goals earning us some significant degree of derision even amongst those we saw as allies. And I'm afraid that as we check out of the world power game, all bets are off.

If you ask me, the horrors of the 20th century were just a warmup for those familiar winds of war gathering strength today. No one is safe.
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Old 11th Jul 2014, 03:16
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Just caught part of "Hannity" tonight where he is on the Mexican Border with Governor Perry. Flying in the Texas DPS Helicopter and River Patrol Boats.

The question that pops to mind is why is the State of Texas having to do this and the frigging Federal Government is not? Where is the Navy, Coast Guard, Army, Air Force and Marine Corps?

We are being invaded.

Our non-estemmed Lead from Behind President is waving them to come ahead on and Congress lets him get away with it!

November we have a chance to remove every single member of the House and one Third of the Senate. Perhaps we need to get a start on cleaning out Congress and perhaps they might take an interest in taking care of the People's Business.
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Old 11th Jul 2014, 04:16
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As the orchestrated chaos at America’s southern border remains unrelenting and continues to worsen, Obama is doing what he does best: ignoring another crisis in favor of fundraising. And despite that fundraising taking place in Texas, the state hardest hit by the onslaught of illegal alien children, Obama has no intention of visiting the border.

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX), whose congressional district sits on the U.S.-Mexican border, told CNN’s Candy Crowley on State of the Union “With all due respect to the administration, they should have seen this coming a long time ago.” Actually they did, as witnessed by the January 29th government advertisement on the FedBizOps web site for companies with the capability to ship 65,000 illegal alien children around the country.

Contained in the same ad was a far greater indicator of the Obama administration’s ultimate intentions once that crisis developed. Whoever provided the escort services was also expected to transport “these juveniles to Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) shelters located throughout the continental United States.” That would be the ORR whose mission is to “provide people in need with critical resources to assist them in becoming integrated members of American society.”

In other the words, the administration was not only anticipating a crisis before one developed, it had seemingly decided that the massive influx of illegals would be categorized as “refugees.” Yesterday the United Nations got into the act, urging the administration to embrace that definition as a means of making tens of thousands of illegals eligible for asylum, rather than sending them home.

Obama’s standard strategy of telling the public one thing, and doing exactly the opposite behind the scenes, is in full swing. In the foreground we will continue to see Obama and his fellow travelers say they are opposed to the influx and committed to stopping it. However, in the background they are giving specific instructions to the federal agencies to continue promoting the process and affirming the intent.

Now Obama is seeking a whopping $3.7 billion for housing, immigration judges, detention facilities, and legal aid, associated with latest influx of illegals. This spending is directed at maintaining a status quo that does nothing to address the ongoing assault on our borders.

Meanwhile we the people are stuck with the problem.
Illegal immigrant children afflicted with tuberculosis, scabies, chickenpox and lice remain at Lackland Air Force base in Oklahoma, illegal alien criminals are being released in Virginia and Arizona, the ongoing protests in Murrieta, CA and Vassar, MI threaten to escalate.

The Commander in Chief of the most powerful military the world has ever seen has a new mission for the brave young men and women who signed up to fight for our great nation: caring for tens of thousands of illegal immigrant children and putting their lives on the line to protect Muslims. Haven’t they sacrificed enough already? Rather than asking more from those who have already given so much, why doesn’t Obama open up refugee camps in the Upper East Side of New York or in Beverly Hills California. Or better yet, why not dump them on the White House lawn and see how he likes it?

And amidst it all, the restrictions the Obama administration is attempting to impose on members of Congress and the media are astounding. The HHS is telling members of Congress visiting the immigration detention center at Lackland AFB that they cannot take pictures, use recording devices, or interact with staff or children. This is the statement of a dictatorship.

And while we are taking care of all these flotsam and jetsam from abroad, a new HHS report shows that a record number of 23.1% of Americans are currently receiving benefits from major welfare programs.

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Old 11th Jul 2014, 04:31
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Was about to say that someone with some web savy should set up a page with a Obama leaving office countdown clock. But there's already one

Countdown to Nov 8, 2016 7:00 AM in San Bernardino
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Old 11th Jul 2014, 14:32
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Found some very interesting data on this website. Take a look at median US household income, both raw and inflation-adjusted over the years.

I found the pattern particularly interesting since 2009, when the current administration was seated (or 2007, when congress went Democrat, if you prefer).

Median Household Income History in the United States

I don't think the current illegal immigration explosion is going to move the needle in a good way.
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Old 11th Jul 2014, 15:22
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Going up until 2008, then going down. Who could have expected that. Surely not the 200,000 screaming Germans.

Mr. 500, the clock is wrong, unfortunately. You have to add an extra 75, or so days, as he doesn't leave the office until January 20ish.
 
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January 20th or upon Resignation or Conviction in an Impeachment Trial.


Well, One can hope can we not?
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