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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:20
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MD11 lands safely, has possible ash symptoms

Just heard that in the north of the uk a BA 747 has had a twin engine shut down, and diverted? From a mil source, but no further info, can anyone confirm or deny?
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:35
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Hope not

I really hope not because we are all going to stop flying again if that is the case.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:39
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Different from yesterday's AirFrance 744 IFSD (1 engine) over Atlantic?
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:44
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Further details, landed in Ostend with engine damage....
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:50
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North of the UK to Ostend? Who's your source?
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:51
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Things to come...

Hopefully, this is just an unsubstantiated rumor. If true, we ARE in a world of hurt, at least for a while. If we end up with a twin-engine glider in the Atlantic splashed across the news, there will be massive shutdowns of traffic, with an even more hesitant resumption in the future.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:54
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Your source???
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 14:56
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Not a BA mainline passenger aircraft but a GSS 747F leased from another operator.
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Not a BA mainline passenger aircraft but a GSS 747F leased from another operator
Can you confirm your source is different from the OP? Better still give your source?
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:03
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Total Bolleaux.

If it was true we'd have heard about it in internal comms and we'd have stopped flying immediately.

Who comes up with this [email protected]?
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:06
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I suspect it's this one - some of the facts fit - posted last night (scroll down for the English translation...):

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...ml#post5648992

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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:09
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I cannot reveal sources for fear of reprisals in my line of work, but a 747 has definatly landed with engine damage in Ostend.... As said, the original post was the first rumblings, all info since had come from a very well placed source. Unsure on other details but it has impacted where I work, flying seems to have been halted again.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:39
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Being cryptic here helps no-one.

Either the plane (which?) landed with 2 engines (how many?)shut down (where?), in which case we all want to know what caused the shut down

or it s all not true.

Press here read as much (or more!) into half truths or rumours than they do in real news...
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:47
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It's not the Professional Pilots Fact Only Network. That would never work as an acronym.

Chances are the truth sits somewhere between 'engines seconds from spectacular death fireball' and 'single hydraulic failure'.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:49
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One hour and 20 minutes after initial posting and nothing on the news networks, seems it was just a 'rumour'.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:53
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My understanding is that it was an World Airways MD-11 which landed on two engines (i.e. one engine out).
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:58
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Where is this coming from? First a BA 747, then a freighter, then an MD.
If there is any truth to it surely knowing the a/c /operator would be the 1st correct detail?
Me suspect lots of crossed wires and very little truth as LHR is still in full swing!
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 15:59
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Think this was/is the source

Original news report here: As op toestel BelgiŽ na vlucht uit Maastricht - Buitenland - Algemeen - Stentor

Translation (Babel Fish):

Tuesday 20 April 2010 | 23:07 OOSTENDE (DUTCH PRESS AGENCY) - at the inspection of a plane of the American society World Airways on the international airport Oostende-Brugge ash have been found on the engines. That communicated the airport inspection in Oostende. The plane landed tuesday afternoon after a flight as from the airport at Maastricht. The plane is kept to the ground. Or there damage is, must Wednesday prove to be after a thorough inspection by a specialized technician. The plane of World Airways was the second apparatus that on Oostende landed. At an inspection of the first apparatus none ash was found. A second freight flight of World Airways, which had end up from Germany, was canceled after the find of ash on the apparatus Maastricht.

Isn't Babel Fish [email protected]? (But I'm sure you get the drift...)

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Old 21st Apr 2010, 16:03
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Google translate is a little better:
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Ash on aircraft flight from Belgium after Maastricht

Tuesday, April 20, 2010 | 23:07
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OOSTENDE (AP) - When inspecting an aircraft of the U.S. airline World Airways International Airport Ostend-Bruges axes found in the engines. Reported that the Ostend airport inspection. The plane landed Tuesday afternoon after a flight from the airport to Maastricht.

The plane is grounded. Whether there is damage, must appear Wednesday after a thorough inspection by a qualified technician.

The aircraft of World Airways was the second aircraft that landed at Ostend. An inspection of the first device was found no ashes.

A second cargo flight from World Airways, which had come from Germany, was canceled after the discovery of ash on the device from Maastricht.
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Old 21st Apr 2010, 16:06
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You would like to think that someone contributing here would know:

a. the difference between BA and World
b. the difference between a 747 and an MD11

So, either, Kengineer has been drinking Skydrol or he's been sold a pup or the real story has yet to break. Answers on a postcard to..........
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