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Which car to buy for the pilgrimage North??

Old 26th Apr 2010, 13:05
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Allan L, a few more than 600km..

Bit of a bum steer on my figures though....

Have heard the F650's can get abut 4800km without refuelling!
But that is with the dual 107gal (equalling approx 800L) Himarc conversion tanks. Fill up once and you'll get to just about anywhere in Aus in one go.
About 16L/100km which isnt too outrageous considering the vehicle is almost a house on wheels powered by either a CAT or Cummins diesel.

Also about 13,000kg GVM capacity I think.
Space in the tray for the daily-driver Barina if you are so inclined!

psycho_joe, I suggest the 3-ply, much softer
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Old 26th Apr 2010, 23:20
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Those millionaires must be paying you well now....

This was my weapon of choice for my flying career..

(going over Dead Horse Gap in the Alps on the way to an Army friends wedding in Albury)
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Old 27th Apr 2010, 00:39
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I think CLX is Alby Mangels or Malcolm Douglas is disguise! Either that or a long lost Leyland brother...
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Old 27th Apr 2010, 00:55
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frigatebird, that XW would be worth a fortune today.

Hey Wally, did you have two airfilters in your car....just in case one became blocked and failed.?
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 04:01
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late 90's early 2000's toyota townace

light, good on fuel, air con, roomy, comfy enough.
money left over for a bullbar, engel fridge, sleeping and eating gear, spares etc.

did i mention it's a toyoya?!!
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 06:14
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There is no committee in a cockpit
Well, its certainly not a democracy in a cockpit, and the PIC is paid to make the decisions, but surely you garner the thoughts of the guy on the right before making the big D. Perhaps not.
learn how to deal with mistakes. Try not to repeat em
The lesson has always been to learn from the other guys mistakes, cause your not going to live long enough to make them all yourself. Some of them,and very simple ones at that, can terminate your longevity in a flash.
And knowing what a wet season is and being properly prepared for it are two very different things until you've experienced one, in my humble opinion.
Tis a wise aviator who, upon arriving in a new arena, seeks out the locals for advice on the local gotchas, whether it be local weather or any other happenstance that lies in wait for the unknowing.

No wonder this thread had fallen into the grasp of Flaps.

Me tinks I much prefer to fly with Ixixly than psycho.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 07:16
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I'm not quite as far down the path as you are, but I'd have to agree a 1993 to 1996 model Toyota camry is hard to go past. Mine's done over 300,000K's on one engine, and no troubles.

That said for my trip I've managed to get my hands on a 1976 HJ Kingswood panelvan with a good engine and a 5-poster roo bar. It looks pretty rough in the body but the 202 red engine is near new, virtually indestructible, easy to get parts for, and a breeze to work on.

No matter what car you get, get some basic tools (jumper leads, cheap socket set, spare belts etc.) and a Haynes manual. Some practise servicing it yourself before you leave the bigsmoke will come in handy too.

Here she is:

happy hunting!
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 07:43
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After reading all this, life in England seems so very boring.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 08:09
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CLX the third Leyland brother, P76?
Or Gelignite Jack from the 1950's Redex trails?
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 11:30
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LM, I would have thought your boring life started the day after trading in the Lightning.
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Old 29th Apr 2010, 02:21
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The mighty Holden panel-van, also known as the f%%% truck, shaggin wagon, virgin conversion unit.

Remember if its rocking don't bother knockin!!

Mates older brother did own one(more correctly Esanda owned 99% of it), much to is very Catholic mother's dismay.

Unfortunately by the time I got my "P" Plates they were so yesterday, and were replaced with the ute as the must have item.
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Old 29th Apr 2010, 02:32
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I still remember seeing, as a teenager, the bumper sticker on one panel van that read: 'don't laugh, your daughter may be in this car'.

I thought it was hilarious...then.
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Old 29th Apr 2010, 02:44
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You can't go past the Holden ute for a trip like that as long as you're not going off road, as they're fairly heavy.

The last model, the WB is the best. It has 'radial tuned suspension', has power steering and often air conditioning. It was built up to 1984.

Go for the 202 ci six or the small (253 ci) V8 which have about the same fuel consumption. On long trips the 202 can get a bit hot between cyls 5 and 6 and can blow the head gasket especially if the ute has been fitted with a low ratio differential for heavy work. A taller diff is better for the open road, keeping the revs and temperature down.

The standard bench seat is a disadvantage as it won't slide back very far and anything that gets under it is hard to get out. Fit bucket seats from any late model Holden sedan. You can get a lot more comfortable in them and there is no black hole to lose things in. You can even fit an entire interior from a Statesman, as well as the popular Statesman 'nose clip' (the front grille and headlights). The diff and disc rear axle from a WB Statesman will fit too, if you want to go that far, but beware of turning into a middle-aged utehead. It's not really a good look, although the ladies get less fussy as you go north, so it's said. Ask Tinpis.

The standard tonneau with lashing on the back is better than the flat stud version which may be fitted. The standard one has a hoop half way which makes it less claustrophobic to sleep under, and the tonneau can be pulled over a load.

It is possible to pick up a bit of freight if you can convince people to trust you. You're paying commercial registration rates anyway, so you might as well take a bit of extra insurance for paid freight.

Lastly, put the spare from under the car inside - it keeps it cleaner - and fit gas.

Good luck!
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Old 3rd Jul 2010, 13:55
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Where to buy a car?

Before the psychos begin ripping me a new one...I'm coming to Australia from NZ, so I have no idea about where and when to buy cars. I'm looking for a car to do the whole east to west trek, and then up north.

I can fly into any city (ideally east coast as it's cheaper...), so which city tends to have cheaper cars? In NZ we'd go to places like Turners for car auctions to pick up ex-taxis, where do you guys get them?

Thanks to everyone for all their advice with what cars to buy - falcon or camry it is.

NB: any reason why 90s holdens didn't come up very often??
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Old 4th Jul 2010, 00:16
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Have a look in the back packer magazines, notice boards at back packer hotels and weekly classified news papers.

There are "car marts" basically private sellers congregate in a car park or field for a few hours to try and sell their cars. As cheap as it gets, also as dodgy. Cash deal and don't expect to see the seller again.

Some dealers specialise in backpacker cars, and will often buy the car back from you at the end of your trip.

Cars sold by travelers can often include camping gear, spare parts, tools or other stuff not worth selling on it's own or taking home, but would be expensive to buy new.

I'd look at Sydney as it's the main gate way in and out of Australia, with the largest choice. Cash in hand, go around the hostels looking at the notice boards for someone selling up and going home should get the best deal.
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Old 4th Jul 2010, 01:47
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Where to Buy

Cheers mate
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Old 4th Jul 2010, 08:44
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I think I have said it before, but I would highly recommend a VW beetle, I have been driving mine since i got my very first P Plates and can not fault it, particularly for a '78 modelCouldnt break it if i tried!
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Old 4th Jul 2010, 12:14
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I used a 1983 Ford [email protected] Ghia. 1.5 litre engine, no air con. (Coped with that..)

Had a full service done prior to departure. (Sydney to Kununurra Jan 1994). New tyres. The best engine oil I could afford. Radiator flush and service as well.
Took top and bottom hoses plus clamps and spare fan belts.
Also carried 10 litires of fuel "just in case" (in an approved vehicle container) plus 20 litres of water. I think I had spare oil as well.

Brilliant road trip. Sydney - Hay - Adelaide - Coober Pedy - Alice Springs - Tennant Creek - Darwin - Kununurra.

11 months later. Kununurra - Katherine (forced stop with a fan belt slowly disintergrating! Cursed the engineers in KNX as they were told to change it) - Mt Isa - Cairns - Rockhampton - Brisbane - Sydney.

I would simply let someone know of my approx departure time and arrival time and phone at the end to say I am ok etc.
Never let the fuel tank get below 1/2. Fortunately, fuel stops every 200km or so along the sealed highways.
Avoided driving at dawn or dusk in the more remote areas as cows and roos are a problem. Night time is risky because the cows like to sit on the roads.

Not advisable to camp unless in designated areas.

Many years later, rode Junior from Cairns to Sydney. 2870km. (Cairns - Townsville - Rockhampton - Brisbane - Tamworth - Sydney)

I figured even if I didn't get a job out of the road trip, it would be an amazing thing to do any way.
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