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Old 7th Sep 2010, 15:57
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Pleased to note the Blairs book has been 'remaindered' at some shops/stores. One wonders about the carbon tax that has been paid to print his [email protected]

Recall watching the US SoS making his speech at the UN and quoting UK 'intelligence' and being slightlly puzzled.

Still wondering what that particular war has done to make life safer for people in the USA or UK. Billions of dollars, many coalition casuaties and many millions of Iraqis displaced or refugees. Add to that the AQ and Iran now in Iraq in one form or another.

Balance sheet anone?
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 10:49
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B*st*rd has deprived us of the opportunity by canceling his signings at Waterstone's book shop and Tate Modern Some public service sort of guy
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 12:09
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It strikes me that the current resurgence in accusations surrounding 'phone-tapping is concentrated on unseating the Tories' 'Alistair Campbell' incumbent rather than establishing any guilt of the miscreants.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 13:11
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It strikes me that the current resurgence in accusations surrounding 'phone-tapping is concentrated on unseating the Tories' 'Alistair Campbell' incumbent rather than establishing any guilt of the miscreants.
I agree with you.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:51
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I had rather hoped that the Prime Minister would resume this week with a raft (and I think that I am just following the media here, isn't a raft what you use when you are stranded on islands?) of measures and put some stick about.

Under the saddest of circumstances, the PM will be again offline, quite rightly, during this difficult time. As much as I detest the Lib Dems (although I belong to your club, ner ner) I think that Clegg is a relatively safe pair of hands. I mean, he won't call in some emergency laws, will he?

However, I will be interested to watch the extent to which the PM's authority might be undermined by his absence.

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Old 9th Sep 2010, 05:14
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However, I will be interested to watch the extent to which the PM's authority might be undermined by his absence.
In reality, I don't think his authority will be undermined at all. Tory MP's will toe the party line and I think we can all guess what the rection from MP's on all sides, as well as the public, would be if some Lib Dems tried to stir anything up to stab him in the back whilst he is in this sad situation.

I reckon even Labour will back off a bit, and stop making so much noise about Coulson, etc, in their attempt to destabilise the coalition
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 12:23
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NOTW hack on R4 defended the culture of phone hacking on a "Public Interest" platform,but left no doubt that Andy Coulson knew about it.
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 12:38
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It's possible he knew, but since the previous police investigation didn't turn up proof he knew then all we have is hearsay, especially as the hack involved on the R4 show may have a grudge of some kind (especially if he was involved in some way and paid a price) so it's impossible to actually say "yea" or "nay" without something on paper/email.
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 12:42
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It could have been set up by the BBC for effect but is that being too cynical? He appeared to defend him all the way through,then conceded by implication that he would have known and effectively said "So, what of it" defending the actions by saying that it's always been done that way.Coulson could be an ingenue of course.
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 13:04
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Given that "ingenue" means a naive or innocent girl or young woman, shurely this could put a whole new complexion on things - I think we should be told .... (Lunchtime O'Booze byline)

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Old 9th Sep 2010, 13:26
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Well, we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the new inquiry.

Of course, those in Labour might be wise to read the article linked below, as they could have done a bit more when all the furore first kicked off under their watch.....

Custodial offence for deliberate invasion of data protection? Forget it! ? The Register


Of course, as it says in the article, suddenly banging up a load of journos just before an election wouldn't have exactly been a "good thing" as far as the media would have treated the party (although I fail to see how they could have looked worse, in reality).
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Old 9th Sep 2010, 13:50
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An ingenue is generally a character in fiction,normally a girl or young woman.In the literal sense however it may also be used to mean naive or innocent.It was in this (admittedly sarcastic) sense that I applied it to an ex NOTW hack,not noted for their lack of cynicism or world weariness. Of course as I used French I should have deleted the final "e" to give it masculinity.
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 10:02
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Today's Daily Mail Online (here) has a piece about the Lib Dems' opposition to budget cuts, and features a map of UK govt. employees by region, and which towns are the most vulnerable. So far, so business as usual. However, it also has a picture of George Osborne, who appears to have annexed the Mull of Kintyre:



Details: here. The Mail might fix the pic by the time you read this, but I guess Monday will see one more "graphic designer" heading for the dole queue, then?
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 10:19
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I was intrigued by the bit just beneath his tie.It seemed for a moment that we had a particularly well endowed chancellor until I realised it wwas the lining to his jacket.
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 11:57
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Wow, Osbornes little list is a neat encapsulation of the state of the nation.
The most vulnerable were all once the primary sources driving the economy of a superpower.
The least vulnerable? Serve the best coffee? Man the best call centres? Cut the best hair?

That really is a depressing roll call. Who can we blame?
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 12:17
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" It seemed for a moment that we had a particularly well endowed chancellor "

I would say that was a very perceptive observation actually....we do indeed have the personification of a Tory appendage.

It will be interesting to listen to the mutual adulation rally ....sorry, party conference.... in early Oct...and then see what comes out later in the month....we are still in the foreplay period after all, the act of congress with the population will not be allowed to be premature under any circumstances...and lots of pain, but very little pleasure I suspect other than for those with voyeuristic inclinations who will benefit from seeing others suffer.
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Old 11th Sep 2010, 16:30
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" It seemed for a moment that we had a particularly well endowed chancellor "
"Oh Granny! What a big thingy you have!"

"All the better to **** all the voters with!"

According to you page from the Daily Gets Much Worse, around 25% of workers in the UK are State employees.

Does this make only me angy? Such a system where the State reduces employment by empoying people just cannot continue.
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Old 12th Sep 2010, 06:37
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Time to get away from "appendages"......

How long do you think it will take for Derek Sawyer to be removed from his post and prosecuted, and do you think Labour will be screaming as hard as they have been over Coulson?

The paedophile and and law chief: It took 32 years to bring pervert headmaster to justice ...but he was helped to hide from his past | Mail Online
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 12:14
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You seem surprised that there is going to be pain ahead. Why so? It has been obvious for a long time that we are f***ed and need a sustained period of austerity and pain to put things right again. I know it gives you and the unions an opportunity to call the Tories heartless yet nobody actually comes up with a realistic alternative. Labour shafted the country big time and now comes the pain of trying to fix it. I am preparing for the tough times ahead, are you?
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Old 13th Sep 2010, 13:08
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Speaking personally I have been preparing for this for 30 years.Got my mortgage paid off and business stock paid for.If more people had done this instead of S****ing it up the wall on all sorts of fripperies in an ultimately doomed attempt to live their lives in the style of their favourite pseudo-celebrity we would not be seeing plumbers on the telly,working out of the back of a van and moaning that the banks won't give them overdrafts.
Just what do you need an overdraft for in his game?

I think the scale of the government's problem is that people like Bob Crow are coming on the wireless and people like Mrs E.M. think that he is a perfectly reasonable and sensible person.After 30 years as a teacher and last year being assessed as the top performer in her school by OFSTED she is going to get made redundant because a newly qualified teached will only cost just over half the salary she does.

Peanuts? Monkeys?
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