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Old 6th Sep 2010, 21:16
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Back to Hague: it is perhaps more likely that the story is an attempt head off something he is planning to do as Foreign Secretary? Has he upset his mandarins, or a foreign govt? Or perhaps payback for Cameron upsetting Pakistan or Turkey (think they were the other one off the top of my head?).
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Old 6th Sep 2010, 21:21
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A Pakistani threw a shoe at him and missed



A man later walked out of Ladbrokes in Karachi with $10,000



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Old 6th Sep 2010, 21:32
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or divert attention away from the millibroon / millibliar / balls infighting on the Labour Leadership... (now out of the spotlight)

or divert attention away from.. Millions of pounds of taxpayers' money is being used by public bodies to pay the salaries of trade union officials (now pushed to the inner pages)

or Dannat's scathing review of the Blair/Brown farce toward the armed services (pushed to the inner pages)
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Old 6th Sep 2010, 21:36
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Millions of pounds of taxpayers' money is being used by public bodies to pay the salaries of trade union officials
If done right (I'm not saying whether all the millions of expenditure are done right, but I know that some of it is) this is actually cheaper than hiring extra HR people to do the same work.
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Old 6th Sep 2010, 23:03
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Personally I'd like to throw something more brown n' smelly at him, for what he did to the party
Yeah, sod the country, as long as he pays for what he did to the fecking party, eh!?
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Old 6th Sep 2010, 23:44
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I'd quite happily throw something at him.

Why? Because he looks a bit like my biological father.

I like to be original, as the other posters have said the rest.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 02:08
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I'd join the queue to throw something at him, not an egg mind, don't like to see good food go to waste. It'd have to be something that would inflict some kind of lasting damage.

As to why, well, where does one start?

Iraq. As good a place as any.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 03:05
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You lot are sad, easy to blame the guy at the top who has to make the unpopular decisions. Sorry I forgot you actually want AlQueda to set up a local branch in the high street don't you.

TB is just symptomatic of a phenomenan called Leaders Curse. No matter who gets into power and what ever they say before hand when they actually get there they find that for the good of the country their hands are tied and there is generally only one course they can take.
If you want proof of this look at what Obama has been able to do as opposed to what he said he wanted to do.

In spite of all the crap that was happening in the world I think for 10 years TB did a good job, after all who, during that time could have done a better job:
Ian Duncan Smith, Michael Howard, Ha. And now wait and see what the boy wonder can do with his hands tied behind his back.

Don't you get it, every single one of them would have made the same decisions TB made in the same place.

BTW I'm not a labour supporter, can't stand the bloody unions and I firmly believe that management should have the right to sack who they bloody well want.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 03:15
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Speaking as an American, I think he was a great guy, and most Americans who pay attention to such things would probably agree!

Everyone needs at least one sycophantic friend who agrees with everything one says!
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 06:53
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I think I keep the eggs and make myself a nice breakfast before throwing Mr Bliar himself off the very largest steepest cliff available in an abyss of obscurity and anonymity
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 07:30
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You lot are sad, easy to blame the guy at the top who has to make the unpopular decisions. Sorry I forgot you actually want AlQueda to set up a local branch in the high street don't you.
Considering it was his government's policies on uncontrolled immigration, their great experiment in social engineering, that allowed so many militant persons into the country whilst refusing to remove them when the true nature of some of those "refugees" came to light, I would say he has done more to have Al Queda open an office on every High Street than anyone who dislikes him.

And we won't go into the policies that turned a country with a thriving economy into one without, the policies that led to declining standards in education (you do realise how many people cannot read, write or count properly, don't you), the robbery of pension funds, the hypocrisy of him and his ilk, the sheer abundance of new and irrelevent laws, etc etc etc.

He was the man at the top of all that, he is the one responsible as, at any time, he could have said "NO" and actually acted in the real interests of the country and not the interests of Bliar PLC.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 07:57
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 08:51
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I would cut Labour out of the loop on this.At the moment,just after a General Election and in the midst of the leadership contest there is nothing to be lost for them. Even the shock headlline "Retired General Blast's Labour" loses some of it's ability to create the necessary indignation.

My theory is that it's a case of no smoke without fire.I only yesterday read the original blog and I have to say that there is a lot of smoke.Redwood reacted very strongly to the allegations.What Tebbitt thinks I can only surmise.The good news for WH is that Coulson looks an easier target at the moment.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 09:05
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It remains EM that you did tout this as fact:
It has been a well known fact for many years now that Billy was Bi-sexual at least
& no damming evidence has been presented. Now that the press have pored over it in all it's minutiae, we cannot say for sure that WH is what he has been accused of being. Time to chalk this one up to experience and move on.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 10:33
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My reaction to Blair is "ignore him and he'll hopefully go away". All this publicity is just serving to sell copies of his book.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 11:06
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I'll be glad when the Pope arrives.
So will Tony, I've no doubt.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 11:47
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Sorry I forgot you actually want AlQueda to set up a local branch in the high street don't you.
Nothing was more likely to sponsor an Al Qaeda office in the High Street than making an unjustified attack upon upon a sovereign Muslim nation (regardless of how bad the ruling regime may have been) - as subsequent events have shown.

The failings of Blair were those of lying to Parliament and the nation. Both Bush and Blair knew perfectly well that Iraq possessed no weapons of mass destruction, nor did Iraq pose the slightest threat to either Europe or the USA. The purpose of the attack and what the pair discussed at their infamous meeting at Camp David will never be known, but it is most likely that the war was designed to raise the price of oil to a level that would make it economical for the USA and UK to pursue offshore oil exploration in ever more difficult locations.

A despicable and consummate liar behind whom stands an equally despicable, money-grubbing wife - some would say an ideal political combination. I wouldn't waste an egg on him.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 12:12
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An attack that your party supported fully nevertheless.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 12:18
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Most of the terrorist organisations did indeed have offices on the High Streets of the Peoples Republic of Greater London,probably financed by grants from the local council tax payers,probably unable to close them because it would violate their human rights.
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Old 7th Sep 2010, 12:34
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An attack that your party supported fully nevertheless.
It was Blair who, as Prime Minister, had unique access to the intelligence reports and pretended they revealed that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction ready for use at 45 minutes notice. Given that such lies were spouted to parliament with the customary Blair hand-wringing false sincerity, how would you expect patriotic Honourable Members of the Opposition to vote?

Likewise the US Secretary of State displaying his aerial pictures of Iraqi long distance lorry drivers taking a rest break at the UN Security Council and describing how the CIA had identified them as mobile chemical weapon laboratories...

All utter bullshit.
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