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Old 9th Oct 2018, 17:58
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
Or will all 32 million be required to actually be 25% more productive than they are now, every day and for the rest of their working lives ?
Wot you're missing is the proper JB right-wing outlook on life. You have to realise that the half of the population that works in the public sector does nothing at all all day long every day except drink tea, so the net result of them working a shorter week would simply be a lower tea bill.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 19:27
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I hate going to the tip with mrs p as, left to her own devices, she would bring back more rubbish than we took down.
Tell her to go easy on any perfume bottles that she finds!
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 19:28
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
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Perhaps Ms Abbott did the number crunching for this ' vote winner ' ?
Best comment on the topic!!!
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 05:09
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As Nat King Cole might have sung,......"Goodbye Arlene, goodbye Arlene, I'll dump on you in my dreams ".....you get the impression Treeza's grandiose extravaganza Festival will now be a minimalist affair in N.I albeit she won't be participating anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-plans-cartoon

And a very timely programme from the accursed BBC....the issues raised probably being tacitly approved of my many of the chums on here when it comes down to equality..... and women.

Thankfully, statistics prove we are all now living longer and who can doubt the value of statistics when it comes to informing the electorate as to why policies are being implemented.......
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...ension-changes

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Old 10th Oct 2018, 05:42
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
Perhaps Ms Abbott did the number crunching for this ' vote winner ' ?
Apparently she is billed as the "headline" speaker at a conference in Nairobi.

Doesn't say much for the support acts.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 06:50
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Apparently she is billed as the "headline" speaker at a conference in Nairobi.

Doesn't say much for the support acts.
What conference is it? A mathematics conference??
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 09:43
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
, so the net result of them working a shorter week would simply be a lower tea bill.
Oh consequences. At least the tea lady won't be missed as her hours are cut and less power will be needed by the power workers who are also working fewer hours. But the tea mountain, the poor tea pickers out of work, the queues at Costa with tea bars closed . . .
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 09:55
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But they will have more time to sit at home and drink tea ... (without the interruption of 'work'!).
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 10:22
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I have a neighbour who works for a county council. He works from home - most of the time.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 12:57
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This may knock the final nail into Mrs May's coffin; I always suspected it would the cosying to the DUP would only end one way; badly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45806063

This could also prove to be the end of Brexit as we know it (or at least as the extremists want it to be) since defeating the budget would likely lead at minimum to the fall of TM, and if the Tories tried to install JR-M or BoJo into the PM's job there's a substantial number of Tories who wouldn't support that either.

Likeliest outcome would then be a general election, second likeliest anew referendum on the EU. It is impossible to tell in these fractious days which way either of those exercises in democracy would turn out, buty neither is going twork in favour of the average working person in the street.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 15:41
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and if the Tories tried to install JR-M or BoJo into the PM's job there's a substantial number of Tories who wouldn't support that either.
Turkeys don't vote for Christmas and Tory MPs won't vote to bring down a Tory government.
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 16:03
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
Turkeys don't vote for Christmas and Tory MPs won't vote to bring down a Tory government.
There are exceptions to every rule and the current internal genocide is tangible evidence of this.......even if they don't, the electorate will because no matter how much they try and disguise matters, nemesis arrives in March next year....

You might also wish to note the ambivalence of a certain staunch supporter, one Penny Mordaunt ....from the Torygraph no less ! ..relax, chaps, the Guardian will be back soon.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...chequers-deal/
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 21:38
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“Current internal genocide..”. Are you talking about the Labour or Conservative party?
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 22:07
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
“Current internal genocide..”. Are you talking about the Labour or Conservative party?
Applies equally to both.
No viable government, and no viable opposition.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 04:19
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For the residents of JB Wisteria Avenue, who are probably unaware and indifferent anyway, to the saga now unfolding here's something that could make next summer interesting for Treeza....... if she's still around

Obviously, the biggest concern for many contributors will be the performance of their upgrade to top of the range cars rather than the reality faced by those who will be the recipients of I D-S's flawed vision.....comes close to Grayling really at times

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ollout-cartoon

To save any further perplexity here's a Tory view......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45817897

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Old 11th Oct 2018, 06:04
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Internal genocide is an odd choice of words from the supporter of a party focussing it’s hatred on survivors of actual genocide.

There is at least as much division within Labour on Brexit. The only difference is that any divergence from The Corbyn line (whatever that is this week) is punished by a chanting Momentum goon-squad.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 09:09
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Universal Credit seems an excellent scheme if applied fairly and with adequate support for those who need it during the transition period. But that needs staff available to respond promptly when a family suddenly finds their income has stopped.

Should this huge development be pushed through just now, when every civil servant is going to be needed to implement the even larger project that will happen next March?
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 09:50
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Universal Credit seems an excellent scheme if applied fairly and with adequate support for those who need it during the transition period. But that needs staff available to respond promptly when a family suddenly finds their income has stopped.

Should this huge development be pushed through just now, when every civil servant is going to be needed to implement the even larger project that will happen next March?
As you say, on the surface it's seemingly an excellent scheme.......however.....it's been attracting criticism over time from a broad range not just those sources who would usually highlight the growing problems......but what better time to launch when the CS are now desperately recruiting staff to deal with what one General Melchett would enthusiastically tell Blackadder was just " one big push ! "....which it will be....straight over the cliff edge

There's also been a few issues with the IT systems mentioned from time to time.....now there's a surprise when Gov't and IT meet.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...iversal-credit
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 12:33
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Internal genocide is an odd choice of words from the supporter of a party focussing it’s hatred on survivors of actual genocide.
ShotOne: You do, from time to time, come up with the most ridiculous comments and this one has to take the biscuit in the blind hatred stakes!
Still, let's not make this Kelvin v ShotOne; once you have provided the evidence of what you allege, taking into account your exact words, I will retract my comment.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 17:50
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Listening to Esther McVey get herself into right tangle on a BBC interview today regarding Universal Credit I think if she doesn't up her game she'll be giving Dianne Abbott a run for her money in the "unsafe pair of hands" department.

I never really rated the woman before (probably due to her hard Brexit attitudes) her incompetence today did little to enamour her to me.
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