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Old 27th Aug 2018, 13:36
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...and bent bananas.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 20:06
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But, as Labour always tells us, money spent in the UK costs us nothing and is free - as it is all recirculated in the economy and returns to the treasury......

Meanwhile, in Labour’s vigourous attempt to stamp out anti-semitism....

https://www.theredroar.com/2018/08/p...osed-new-code/

Penalties for “vexatious” antisemitism complaints in Labour’s proposed new code

Labour’s proposed new antisemitism code will penalise members who make "vexatious" claims on the grounds that many complaints about antisemitism have been made "as part of a factional agenda".

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/l...apse-pgdd5hmbv

Labour antisemitism inquiry ‘close to collapse’

Hundreds of complaints of alleged antisemitism against Labour members remain unaddressed and its internal investigation unit has all but collapsed, insiders say.

Jeremy Corbyn has repeatedly promised to speed up the party’s disciplinary process, most recently in a filmed apology for the hurt caused to British Jews this month.

Well-placed figures say that hundreds of investigations are unresolved at the party’s Victoria Street headquarters. The former head of the compliance unit left shortly after the arrival of the new general secretary, Jennie Formby. At least two other members have followed, leaving just one staff member investigating cases.

A Labour spokesman said: “We have robust processes for dealing with complaints we receive. We don’t comment on staffing matters.” A party source said that it “didn’t recognise” a claim that the number of complaints could be as high as 500.

The growing backlog now includes a complaint lodged against the Labour leader after his refusal to apologise for suggesting in 2013 that “Zionists” who have “lived in this country . . . probably all their lives” lacked a sense of English irony. The campaign group Labour Against Antisemitism has asked for Mr Corbyn to be investigated for his remarks and for bringing the party into disrepute.

A Labour spokesman said that it was not aware of the complaint......


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Old 28th Aug 2018, 06:43
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Clearly determined to make her mark on history, not once, but twice, ( the first being the imminent arrival of next March ) here's the UK's new global plans which will stir the hearts, albeit the minds are already set in concrete, of so many infatuated with the past.

And in only a mere 4 years !.......erm, possibly she's sort of quietly ignored similar grand plans, lets give one a snappy strap line ......say "The Northern Powerhouse " for example, which haven't quite come to fruition ...

More bad news is the fact a country called China, nondescript and merely on the fringes of global influence as any Mail reader would confirm, has being making inroads into Africa for some considerable time now, but, thankfully, British expertise will put these upstarts in their place pretty damned quickly !

It's tempting to suggest loading a couple of LD 3's or 4's with trinkets and beads to entice the local populations as to the UK's benevolence isn't actually going to work in the 21st century, but this may offend the delicate sensibilities of our more fervent patriots on here......so I won't.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45325701
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 07:03
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£6.7B a year buys a lot of trinkets......

(UK government foreign aid is approx £13.7B a year, of which 51% is spent in Africa)
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 07:39
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One advantage of investing in Africa is that it will stop any softening of property prices in London.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 15:40
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
(UK government foreign aid is approx £13.7B a year, of which 51% is spent in Africa)
Gosh, really? - you'd never know that be reading the Wail and its ilk, which would have you believe that most foreign aid went to fund the Indian space programme.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 15:58
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Gosh, really? - you'd never know that be reading the Wail and its ilk, which would have you believe that most foreign aid went to fund the Indian space programme.
You are being disingenuous. It did but we stopped the aid and they said they didn't need it.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2016/nov/16/uk-government-led-public-to-believe-aid-india-ended-watchdog-says-department-international-development-dfid

and not the Wail.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 04:44
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Unlike other former politicians, it's a safe bet to say Treez won't be taking part in "Strictly Come Dancing " when she gets deposed....

As C4 News put it, offering "Aid for Trade " is another tried and tested Tory strategy .....some people may call it bribery but that would only upset those for whom this trip is akin to the renaissance of Empire ....

Anyway, we've got a supah new trade deal !......erm, no we haven't but that's not going to worry the readers of certain rags now is it. Although it probably wasn't really a wise comment to make about Boris and his efforts on behalf of the UK.....non....last year

Always liked Michael Crick and his questions.......

https://www.channel4.com/news/what-d...artheid-stance
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 05:43
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Well do you think that now TM has promised some trade deals with Africa I will stop getting e-mails from my Nigerian friends offering to "help me" get so much wealthier if I would just offer a little inducement, for which they need a bank account or CC number ?
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 05:56
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Well do you think that now TM has promised some trade deals with Africa I will stop getting e-mails from my Nigerian friends offering to "help me" get so much wealthier if I would just offer a little inducement, for which they need a bank account or CC number ?
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Quite possibly......they will now come directly from Tory Central Office instead.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 06:31
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Meanwhile - back to the so called “leader of the opposition” Jeremy Corbyn......

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ex-chief-rabbiCorbyn’s “Zionist” remarks were “most offensive” since Enoch Powell, says ex-chief rabbi

Jeremy Corbyn is “an anti-Semite” who has “given support to racists, terrorists and dealers of hate”, the former chief rabbi Jonathan Sacks has said. In an exclusive interview with the New Statesman, the peer described Corbyn’s recently reported 2013 remarks on “Zionists” as “the most offensive statement made by a senior British politician since Enoch Powell’s 1968 ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech”.......

“We can only judge Jeremy Corbyn by his words and his actions. He has given support to racists, terrorists and dealers of hate who want to kill Jews and remove from Israel from the map. When he implies that, however long they have lived here, Jews are not fully British, he is using the language of classic pre-war European anti-Semitism. When challenged with such facts, the evidence for which is before our eyes, first he denies, then he equivocates, then he obfuscates. This is low, dishonest and dangerous. He has legitimised the public expression of hate, and where he leads, others will follow..........

https://order-order.com/2018/08/28/j...ic-racist-sue/

Julia Hartley-Brewer set out an explosive challenge to Jeremy Corbyn live on air today, when interviewing a ‘Jewish Voice For Labour’ spokesman.

Come on Jezza, sue me. I think you’re anti-Semitic. I think everything you do and say suggests you are anti-Semitic. I think you’re an anti-Semite, just like Margaret Hodge, prominent Jewish Labour MP. If that’s not true, prove to me that it’s not true. Take me to court, sue me for libel, and let’s get this out in the open.”



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Old 29th Aug 2018, 06:44
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
One advantage of investing in Africa is that it will stop any softening of property prices in London.
An investment usually creates the expectation of a return, what return can anyone expect out of Africa? For decades governments have squandered countless billions there and charities keep begging for money to improve water and sanitation. Where has all the cash gone?
They've had enough cash to give everyone a gold plated bog, but are still crapping in the bushes.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 06:45
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Jonathan Sacks needs to wind his neck in. The comments were, at best, a result of his being ill informed or, at worst, a deliberate attack on Corbyn as part of a campaign to get rid of Corbyn, regardless of what lies, fables or downright distortions need to be deployed.
I have noticed over the last week comments from Luciana Berger, telling us how she feels unwelcome. I have some news for her, she has always been unwelcome in her constituency of Liverpool Wavertree. I have family living in that constituency and I have never heard a good word about her from anyone in the area. And it has nothing to do with her religion, it is to do with how she got there. "Parachuted in" is a phrase often used.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 06:55
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
An investment usually creates the expectation of a return, what return can anyone expect out of Africa? For decades governments have squandered countless billions there and charities keep begging for money to improve water and sanitation. Where has all the cash gone?
They've had enough cash to give everyone a gold plated bog, but are still crapping in the bushes.
There was a story on the World service this morning telling of how an African man (the World Service is these days very very Africa-centric) was building a Piano, seriously...........great advances are happening
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:03
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I have some news for her, she has always been unwelcome in her constituency of Liverpool Wavertree. I have family living in that constituency and I have never heard a good word about her from anyone in the area.
Nobody likes her but in two elections she has garnered nearly 70% of the vote. You move in strange circles!
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:17
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Siti, because most people vote for the party not the person most of the time.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:20
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https://www.westmonster.com/brexitee...ks-membership/

Brexiteer Tory MPs fury at party blocking Arron Banks membership

Conservative MPs have expressed their frustration with the party for blocking the membership of Arron Banks.

Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski said on Twitter: “We have accepted former Labour and Lib Dem councillors and even MPs who campaigned against us in past so what’s the difference? We must have a transparent policy on this issue. Am raising with Chairman of 1922 Committee.”


According to Telegraph Brexit Editor
other Tory MPs are also complaining to the head of the 1922 committee,

Theresa May claimed the reason behind his membership being rejected was “because he’s someone who campaigned against the Conservative Party.” However the Tories have accepted many ex-UKIP members before, for example when 7 UKIP councillors defected to the Conservatives last year........



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Old 29th Aug 2018, 08:03
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Thanks Pontius. The reason for her being voted in is because the people of that constituency would rather go in for a post of self-immolation than vote Tory. They want to vote Labour and their choice is Berger or Berger. The 70% of the vote reflects the strength of the dislike of the Tories.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 08:24
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Jonathan Sacks needs to wind his neck in. The comments were, at best, a result of his being ill informed or, at worst, a deliberate attack on Corbyn as part of a campaign to get rid of Corbyn, regardless of what lies, fables or downright distortions need to be deployed.
I have noticed over the last week comments from Luciana Berger, telling us how she feels unwelcome. I have some news for her, she has always been unwelcome in her constituency of Liverpool Wavertree. I have family living in that constituency and I have never heard a good word about her from anyone in the area. And it has nothing to do with her religion, it is to do with how she got there. "Parachuted in" is a phrase often used.
The (justified) backlash against Corbyn and antisemitism has been hijacked by British Zionists who see an opportunity to push the Labour party, and the general public agenda in UK towards a situation where criticising Israeli policies must be construed as antisemetic and therefore unacceptable. It's a clever campaign that it appears, certainly through the good offices of parts of the UK media to be succeeding, with Corbyn being little more than collateral damage in the scheme of things from their perspective.

If Corbyn had woken up to his / Labour's shortcoming from an antisemitic standpoint months ago then this may not have happened.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 08:40
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KelvinD,

What a shame that Rabbi Sacks isn’t a member of the Labour Party- then you could hit him with a fine for a “vexatious complaint” and suspend him from the party!!

ATNotts,

Ah! Those infamous “British Zionists” and “parts of the UK media”. Wonder who funds them - nudge, nudge.

Still, I am sure you can both find somewhere to crowd fund Jeremy to sue Julia Hartley-Brewer for such a, surely, libellous accusation.

Meanwhile, here’s a shovel, just keep digging whilst I get some popcorn and sit back and watch.......
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