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Old 6th Aug 2018, 20:38
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
They didn't bother to correct or challenge the comment by the multi millionaire, anti-Semitic, Corbynite.
The BBC's job is to report accurately​​​​​ what is said or done. They very soon get criticised on here when they fail to do so. In this case they quoted what Bragg said, so that we can all judge him for it.

You were wrong to say that was the BBC's own statement.
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 21:11
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You were wrong to say that was the BBC's own statement.
True, but the BBC chose the headline

Socialist bookshop in London 'attacked by mask-wearing fascists'

and should have been aware that many people wouldn't notice or even understand the significance of the quotation marks.
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 21:19
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
The BBC's job is to report accurately​​​​​ what is said or done.
Now, you are really having a laugh!
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 21:46
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Now, you are really having a laugh!
Of course the BBC gets it wrong very frequently.

But in this case they reported it accurately, and you are blaming them for getting it right!
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 06:56
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Of course the BBC gets it wrong very frequently.

But in this case they reported it accurately, and you are blaming them for getting it right!
No, they added a quote from someone who aligns with their political position.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 07:25
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Originally Posted by ZeBedie View Post
True, but the BBC chose the headline

Socialist bookshop in London 'attacked by mask-wearing fascists'

and should have been aware that many people wouldn't notice or even understand the significance of the quotation marks.
Just as well the BBC have subsequently clarified the term used and the applicability then....unless it was another bookshop of course...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45093339
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 08:05
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What food do we import from the EU that is not readily available from outside? Israeli citrus fruits vice Spanish. As for wine, who would miss the French, German and Italian when we have Australia and New Zealand not to mention Americans?
I for one will! I despair of the "alcoholic ribena" that is the staple of supermarket shelves, mostly produced by business units of the multinational drinks manufacturers, with a reliable taste and total lack of complexity, tannins and the like, independent of the year it was made and the weather conditions that ought to affect the taste of a wine. I appreciate that there are independent wineries in all the New World countries mentioned that undoubtedly make really good, competitively priced wines, but, as with German wines in particular, the wineries don't flog it to the UK, and the UK wine retailers don't want to sell it - because of the UK consumer's obsession with "brands".

That situation has got worse in recent years, and going forward, no matter what the outcome of "that which we cannot name" will continue apace.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 08:23
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
. I appreciate that there are independent wineries in all the New World countries mentioned that undoubtedly make really good, competitively priced wines, but, as with German wines in particular, the wineries don't flog it to the UK, and the UK wine retailers don't want to sell it - because of the UK consumer's obsession with "brands".

That situation has got worse in recent years, and going forward, no matter what the outcome of "that which we cannot name" will continue apace.
You mention Germany not selling good wine to UK, I agree. Do the French, Spanish and Italian send us good wine? I admit I like a good Rioja but drink well over 12:1 whites and favour a particular NZ Marlborough region.

On Brands, I have to say I avoid wines with trendy names, Boy meets Girl I think was one. Also the French use of Chateaux names, other than the famous ones. If you don't know the Chateau it is meaningless to many of us. I much prefer to know where it is from, the maker and the grape used. Zifandel is a good example though one I never drink.

From next year will it cost the importers less to import from world markets? (Note, don't say cheaper for us)
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:01
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You mention Germany not selling good wine to UK, I agree. Do the French, Spanish and Italian send us good wine? I admit I like a good Rioja but drink well over 12:1 whites and favour a particular NZ Marlborough region.
I doubt it; again the big players in the market concentrate on buying brands from major manufacturers such as Felix Solis in Spain, and I feel sure sure that the smaller wineries (as opposed to manufacturers) wouldn't get a look in, even if they wanted to engage with the UK market. I mentioned Germany in particular as the gulf between the utter [email protected] that is Black Tower, and the Liebfraumilch that we are flogged, compared with the real quality that is made in areas like Franken, Baden, and in particular the hidden gem that is the Ahr is cavernous.

It will be interesting to see how restricted we become post Brexit when it comes to buying and bringing back to UK the likes of alcohol and tobacco. It's not been broached (publicly) so far, but I would expect that something might be said in the upcoming budget, or in the customs bill. If it isn't, and we exit the EU without transition I doubt they'll have the time to implement (and enforce) lower limits in the short term. My bet is that we'll return to the standard duty free allowances, which will really pee off many travelers, especially those living in the Southeast. Could be a vote loser.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:09
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Heard in the office today:

“Brexit’s like a box of chocolates – you never know what you’re gonna get. So we opened the box and found that the only thing left was the fudge.”

Many a true word...

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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:16
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The return of inter-European duty free might be quite popular and should create some more jobs in the UK - our holiday airlines suffered greatly when it was taken away. But in practice, I bet there will be no duty free.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:20
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I travel to France at least five times a year I am fortunate enough to have friends with house in the Marne valley and near to Toulouse. In the early days the wine limit worked out at 11 bottles if you didn't take up your spirit allowance, after one of the treaties that became more or less unlimited. I'm not sure whether we will return to 11 bottles or the original lower allowance, which I think was four per person. Of course the consequences of smuggling say a single case are negligible. The worst that is likely to happen is that you will have to pay the extra duty.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:21
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Originally Posted by ZeBedie View Post
The return of inter-European duty free might be quite popular and should create some more jobs in the UK - our holiday airlines suffered greatly when it was taken away. But in practice, I bet there will be no duty free.
I can't see it creating jobs in the UK, as what was "duty free" at airports has been consumed into the irritating Hampton Court Maze of high street retailers through which travelers who aren't addicted to shopping have to weave their way through to get to some seating, or their gates. Those shops will probably morph back into duty free, and push some of the others out.

However I can imagine the airlines being cock-a-hoop at the idea, and also the cabin crew who ought to see their commission rise based on packs of 200 fags, dodgy watches and naff perfume sales.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:26
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Maybe Charlie Rowley will find gainful employment there.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:29
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Maybe Charlie Rowley will find gainful employment there.
Funny, but shockingly bad taste!
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 09:34
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I know. I thought twice about posting it. But then I considered the average level of JB taste.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 10:56
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
the irritating Hampton Court Maze of high street retailers through which travelers who aren't addicted to shopping have to weave their way through to get to some seating, or their gates. .
I use an airport lounge, free wifi, free papers, free coffee, free drinks and free from temptation
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 11:55
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
I use an airport lounge, free wifi, free papers, free coffee, free drinks and free from temptation
Lucky you!! Most airports are a labyrinth staffed by retail therapists looking to part fools from their money.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 12:50
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Lucky you!! Most airports are a labyrinth staffed by retail therapists looking to part fools from their money.
What has luck got to do with it? The saving on food and drink and avoidance of shops more than cover the costs.
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Old 7th Aug 2018, 13:38
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Just as well the BBC have subsequently clarified the term used and the applicability then....unless it was another bookshop of course...
Wow! - that was quick. If only the other Parties moved as fast when it comes to suspending their members who misbehave. Perhaps they could give Corbyn some tips.
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