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Old 26th Jan 2018, 04:05
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" Due to unforeseen circumstances, a position will shortly arise for the post of Prime Minister. No specific qualifications are required for this post, but it would be desirable if candidates had poor levels of communication and interpersonal skills, a complete lack of understanding as to domestic political issues and no leadership skills.

This post carries with it sponsored housing, free travel and the opportunity to become enshrined in the history of the UK.

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Old 26th Jan 2018, 05:40
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Thankfully there is no vacancy for the role of Leader of the Opposition during PMQs.....
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 13:19
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Labour Party campaigner Jennifer James has been suspended from the party for tweeting that "women don't have dicks".

She also committed the crime of saying..

“In fifteen years’ time when your daughters miss out on their Uni places cos of men, when your mum is in a hospital ward with men, when the Olympic women’s 100m gold is won by a man and when a fully grown man follows your little girl into the women’s loos at Maccys… remember us.”

All that's missing are the strait jackets!
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 15:55
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sitigeltfel: Thanks for your answer. Ms Dent-Coad really is a silly bugger for that outburst.
However, she did refer to "things going backwards under the Tories". And, of course many would be quick to point out that the PCC for London is, effectively, Sadiq Khan who is of the Labour Party.
However, I thought to myself "well, London is one city/County area, what about others in my part of the world?"
So, I thought I would check them out and here's a sample of statistics around the South East:
Homicide increased by 13.5%
Possession of weapons increased by 27.2%
Sexual Offences increased 25.5%
All the 5 PCC areas that make up the South East are Conservative controlled. So, she may have had a point.
However, I have to say one has to wonder where she got these numbers from. The ONS data sets do not break down Possession of weapons by weapon so it is difficult to see where this knife crime figure comes from.
The number of homicides in the Met Police area includes victims of terrorism so may be slightly inflated.
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Old 26th Jan 2018, 16:55
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Labour Party campaigner Jennifer James has been suspended from the party for tweeting that "women don't have dicks".
Some of the TERFs who've been turfed out of the Labour party[#] have joined our lot. You'd think they'd be bright enough not to want to join a party which is home to approximately 100% of politically active trans people in the UK ... but no, apparently not.

[#] SWIDT?
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 08:32
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Labours aspirant Chancellor, John McDonnell, told a meeting at Davos that Venezuela's problems stem from them not being Socialist enough.

Lenin tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Mao tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Pol Pot tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Castro tried Socialism and it didn't work.
The East Germans tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Venezuela is now proving, in front of our eyes, that Socialism doesn't work.

What also didn't work was killing tens of millions of your people to try to make it work.

Here we have McDonnell, the man who thirty years ago was sacked from the GLC by Ken Livingstone of all people, for financial incompetence, telling us that he can make Socialism work.

That around 40% of voters believe this shows a severe problem with the UK's mental health.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 09:37
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Labours aspirant Chancellor, John McDonnell, told a meeting at Davos that Venezuela's problems stem from them not being Socialist enough.

Lenin tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Mao tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Pol Pot tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Castro tried Socialism and it didn't work.
The East Germans tried Socialism and it didn't work.
Venezuela is now proving, in front of our eyes, that Socialism doesn't work.

What also didn't work was killing tens of millions of your people to try to make it work.

Here we have McDonnell, the man who thirty years ago was sacked from the GLC by Ken Livingstone of all people, for financial incompetence, telling us that he can make Socialism work.

That around 40% of voters believe this shows a severe problem with the UK's mental health.
A prerequisite for Labour's desired Trot socialist workers' paradise is indeed that the workers not be free to leave, otherwise they'll leave (although killing them by the tens of millions to stop them leaving sounds a bit inefficient to me, not least because it means you've no longer got the workers after you've killed them).

Which means stopping outgoing freedom of movement. Which the Tories are handing to them on a plate.

Anyone know why the Tories are so keen to take this country on the first step down the road to becoming a Trot socialist workers' paradise? - I certainly can't make sense of it.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 10:40
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Corbyn told a blatant lie on the Marr show this morning, and Marr let him get away with it. When asked about the cash he received from the evil Iranian regime, he said it was a long time ago. In fact, between 2009 and 2012 he took £20,000 from them.
A new definition of "a long time ago" has been set, it seems!
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 11:50
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Just add it to “totally honest politician” Corbyns others lies ie Virgin Trains incident, His position on Brexit, his association with IRA terrorists his anti-semetisim and when he decided to give Shameless Chakrabhati a peerage!
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 13:19
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Corbyn says he is going to steal empty properties to house the homeless.

Thornberry lives in a £2.9 million pound house in Islington and obviously has no need for her £600,000 flat in Guildford, or her £572,000 house in Clerkenwell.

There you are Jezza, two surplus properties to start off with!
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 13:25
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Corbyn says he is going to steal empty properties to house the homeless.

Thornberry lives in a £2.9 million pound house in Islington and obviously has no need for her £600,000 flat in Guildford, or her £572,000 house in Clerkenwell.

There you are Jezza, two surplus properties to start off with!
He could also look at some council houses that Labour Cambridge City Council has built and left empty.
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 17:48
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Jeremy Corbyn announces Labour will buy every homeless person in the country a house
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 23:41
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Labour's 8,000 "New" homes

Mr Corbyn promised today to "immediately" provide 8,000 new homes to end the "disgusting" scandal of homelessness. While I'm with him 100% on the awfulness of homelessness, it turns out that these homes are in fact to be "taken over" from housing associations "as they become available". So not really very immediate. Nor are they new homes, just existing ones being taken into state ownership. Their present tenants will have to find somewhere else to live. Other than that, though, nice one, Jeremy.

Also, anyone facing a job transfer or base move had better look closely at what he's said on empty homes. He has pledged to work with councils to "take over" (sounds suspiciously like "confiscate") empty homes. While an opt-out for serving military was mentioned, nothing for airline staff and such moves are only too common in this industry.
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 02:25
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There is a lot of detail missing from the statement, in fact it says enough to get a headline and that's about it, but it begs the question "yes, but then what?" You are a housing association, you have a house that is currently empty. The Labour party take it over, do they pay you for it?

If Yes then the housing association is now minus one house, with less rent money coming in to pay for the associations bills for the rest of the tenants (not to mention if that keeps going these housing associations are going to have no stock...)

If not then you have a homeless person with no income living in your asset. Even if the Labour party pay the rent, how are the neighbours going to feel about suddenly about it? Without casting negative waves on the character of homeless people, but are they going to be up to the task of maintaining the house? Will the Labour party give them furniture, white goods, linens etc?

I think it's a headline grab with no substance behind it designed to appeal to the voter who wants to think the benevolent chairman is going to make it all better, or if it has substance it will be kept quiet until it's too late....
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 03:32
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
Mr Corbyn promised today to "immediately" provide 8,000 new homes to end the "disgusting" scandal of homelessness. While I'm with him 100% on the awfulness of homelessness, it turns out that these homes are in fact to be "taken over" from housing associations "as they become available". So not really very immediate. Nor are they new homes, just existing ones being taken into state ownership. Their present tenants will have to find somewhere else to live. Other than that, though, nice one, Jeremy.

Also, anyone facing a job transfer or base move had better look closely at what he's said on empty homes. He has pledged to work with councils to "take over" (sounds suspiciously like "confiscate") empty homes. While an opt-out for serving military was mentioned, nothing for airline staff and such moves are only too common in this industry.
One of the delights of JB is reading the innovative excuses offered in an attempt to disguise the true sentiments expressed.....always sounds better, however implausible they may be.

Anyway, it seems it was jolly beastly of Corbyn not to include airline staff in his policy ......let alone other occupations that require relocation.

There is, however, just one small problem with this heartfelt plea which you seem to have overlooked......airline staff are remunerated......the homeless aren't.
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 03:36
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 06:27
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
... ... ...

There is, however, just one small problem with this heartfelt plea which you seem to have overlooked......airline staff are remunerated......the homeless aren't.
Airline staff pay the taxes that would be required to make such a daft 'policy' work. The homeless don't. A 'double whammy' then: you pay the taxes that are needed to run a policy that takes your home away. But, hey! You will then be homeless and entitled to 'help' from The Great Chairman. And around and around we go ...*

It all looks like that little whirlpool that you see as everything goes down the plug-hole, as always with anything financial when Labour get their greedy mitts on it!

* By the way, KnC, an ellipsis is three dots. No need for 'dot diarrhoea'!
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 06:38
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[quote=Trossie;10034704]Airline staff pay the taxes that would be required to make such a daft 'policy' work. The homeless don't. A 'double whammy' then: you pay the taxes that are needed to run a policy that takes your home away. But, hey! You will then be homeless and entitled to 'help' from The Great Chairman. And around and around we go ...*

It all looks like that little whirlpool that you see as everything goes down the plug-hole, as always with anything financial when Labour get their greedy mitts on it!
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Old 29th Jan 2018, 06:53
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
* By the way, KnC, an ellipsis is three dots. No need for 'dot diarrhoea'!
We always knew he was a bit "dotty".!

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Old 29th Jan 2018, 07:13
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I think Corbin has missed the point about a lot of the homeless. A great deal of them suffer from mental illness and are living on the streets because of the cuts in services and “care in the community” (ie just put ‘em out there)
If these individuals are just provided with roofs over their heads, they’ll still be in dire straits, unable to care adequately for themselves. Whilst no one wants a return to the old mental hospitals, suitable hostels need to be started where they receive care and appropriate medication.
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