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Old 19th Dec 2017, 12:24
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Dictionaries are not an authority, they are a record.
What is an authority then?
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 13:17
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A few years ago we were offered the opportunity of a unitary authority to replace our district council.
Despite voting overwhelmingly to retain our district council, it was decided that the county council would be adopted in its place.
The result (for our community) has been disastrous, with our financial reserves dispersed across the higher populated (and poorer) areas of the county.
Now we are being railroaded into a devolved authority amalgamating the nearby city and a 'disadvantaged' municipal region.
Why am I apprehensive?
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 15:14
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Bailiffs are this afternoon roaming around Labour controlled Birmingham Council offices seizing goods to sell off because of unpaid debts to suppliers.

The incompetence of Socialism, right in front of your eyes.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 15:57
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A Labour controlled council indeed! The last time this sort of fiasco happened in Birmingham was 2007 when the council had over 30,000 unpaid invoices/bills. Labour council again? No, it was a Conservative/Lib Dem alliance.
Incidentally, you should wind the rhetoric down a notch. There are no bailiffs at the council this afternoon. They are High Court Enforcement officers (used to be Sheriffs) and they won't be seizing goods, they will be listing them, prohibiting the disposal of the goods by the council until the High Court order is satisfied. If the council don't pay up, then the High Court can remove the goods for sale.
If you want to hear about incompetence, you should have watched a Home Office Minister in the Commons earlier today, bragging about how the magic money tree had produced extra cash for local police forces. Oh, and telling us how local councils are to be allowed to raise council tax to pay for it! He was bragging about what a good job his lot have done for policing in this country, despite members from the other side getting up, one after another, to tell of shortages of umpteen thousand police offers around the constituencies and crime rates going up in sync with police numbers going down.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 17:02
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Originally Posted by Jet II View Post
What is an authority then?
There isn't one for the English language as far as I'm aware. We don't have an equivalent of L'Academie Francaise to lay down the law on grammar, meaning and usage. Hence all the pedantic argy-bargy that goes on. It's all really just a matter of opinion and dictionaries record the current meaning and usage of words and, in the fuller versions, how the words have been derived and their meanings evolved and changed with time.
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 05:59
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Accounting principles...... a beginners guide.

Tory version ( remarkably similar to football in many respects )...

Bung the odd £1bn to the DUP and £xx bn on Brexit.

Get taxpayers to make up shortfalls as a result of the above thereafter.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ap-sajid-javid
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 16:27
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I can't wait for you to tell us Labours version.
I think we all know Labour's version - the free flying golden unicorns for everybody will be paid for out of the "proceeds of growth" (aka "magic money tree").
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 04:27
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One of our contributors has lamented there had been no posts on this thread for a while.

This gentleman offers us, well those of us who care about humanity that is ( " Compassionate Conservatives"....an oxymoron in its own right if ever there was one...excluded for obvious reasons ) a very insightful piece of political commentary....

https://www.channel4.com/news/how-sh...ess-be-tackled
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Old 23rd Dec 2017, 05:37
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George Orwell

Notes on Nationalism


Anglophobia. Within the intelligentsia, a derisive and mildly hostile attitude towards Britain is more or less compulsory, but it is an unfaked emotion in many cases..... In foreign politics many intellectuals follow the principle that any faction backed by Britain must be in the wrong. As a result, ‘enlightened’ opinion is quite largely a mirror-image of Conservative policy.”

The Lion and the Unicorn

“England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during God save the King than of stealing from a poor box.”
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 10:33
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Almost back on form there ORAC.....well done.

Never let it be said I am not a pragmatist thus, one can actually agree with this.....she had to get something right....once....after all.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...foxhunting-ban

On the other hand, given that handbrake turns are now standard Tory policy, perhaps no real surprise.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 18:28
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 20:32
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Almost back on form there ORAC.....well done.

Never let it be said I am not a pragmatist thus, one can actually agree with this.....she had to get something right....once....after all.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...foxhunting-ban

On the other hand, given that handbrake turns are now standard Tory policy, perhaps no real surprise.
Hardly surprising in view of her feelings regarding the naughtiness of running through cornfields.
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Old 26th Dec 2017, 09:29
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Nick Clegg : unemployed as an MP and rejected by voters, slithering his way around Europe trying to win favor with unelected bureaucrats and get a job by betraying the democratic decision of his own country, is to receive a Knighthood
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Old 26th Dec 2017, 13:42
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Nick Clegg : unemployed as an MP and rejected by voters, slithering his way around Europe trying to win favor with unelected bureaucrats and get a job by betraying the democratic decision of his own country, is to receive a Knighthood
You have to feel a bit sorry for him - he was angling for a well paid job in the EU and just ends up with a title that sometimes gets you a better seat in a restaurant..

#weepforclegg
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Old 26th Dec 2017, 14:33
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ends up with a title that sometimes gets you a better seat in a restaurant..
Imagine booking a table, only to discover he was dining at the next one. The horror!
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 11:59
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Imagine booking a table, only to discover he was dining at the next one. The horror!
Siti .....thou art being a shade churlish here old boy !.....on the other hand, if you were sat in the vicinity of George, well, I'd do a knife count first before one, or more, endeth up between the shoulder blades !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-eu-referendum

Of course, just imagine if thou were plonked next to, or, better still, at the same table as, erm, ones modest self....

Now that would be fun.....well for me anyway
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 13:48
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Albanian criminals win right to remain in the UK.
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 14:49
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Imagine booking a table, only to discover he was dining at the next one. The horror!
Not at all. I would imagine that he would be a good conversationalist. Similar I would be happy to converse over dinner with Nigel Farage, Jeremy Corbyn or Michael Gove. None of whom I share political inclinations with.
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 15:16
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Not at all. I would imagine that he would be a good conversationalist.
As long as you didn't bring up what he knew (or didn't know) about Cyril Smith, you should be fine.
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