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Old 30th Aug 2017, 21:06
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Originally Posted by Seldomfitforpurpose View Post
And the good news keeps on coming

MPs should play no role in deciding who can stand for Labour leadership, key ally of Jeremy Corbyn claims

A vote to make it even easier for far left candidates and Jezza's mates to get onto the ballot paper.
Excellent idea - anything that makes the PLP even more disfunctional gets my vote. We need more laughs in Parliament
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 21:45
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And the good news keeps in coming (2) May now saying that she will lead Tories into the next election...that should go down well!
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
And the good news keeps in coming (2) May now saying that she will lead Tories into the next election...that should go down well!
It's not really up to her is it?
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 04:36
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
I know it hurts KnC, but lashing out in despair might make you feel better - but it only appears amusingly pathetic to those watching.
ORAC....your sensitivities are showing !.....I mocketh thee without malice when the opportunity arises and, less you forget, you're far from averse to passing a few slightly more barbed comments about myself in this respect. Not that I am remotely concerned about such.

Now, back to the deluded and the delusional.....

For those so adamant and enthused by the result of the GE, it's hardly surprising they have skirted the apology she made to her own party, let alone the fact she lost a majority, but lets not dwell on political reality in case it raises some uncomfortable truths which may lead to indigestion of the mornings Farley's rusks when read.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...election-as-pm

The Chinese are pretty astute as we know, so their assessment of her cannot really be faulted...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-chinese-media

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Old 31st Aug 2017, 07:25
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It's quite brazen of her, having proved by the election result that, whilst she may not be a quitter in regard to the leadership, she certainly is when things get tough and the bullets start to fly. Unlike Corbyn, who seemed to relish the fray and actually performed better once things got a bit rough she ran away pure and simple. I still think that Corbyn is a disaster for Labour and potentially the country. May and the Tories are proving to be no better.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 07:33
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
It's quite brazen of her, having proved by the election result that, whilst she may not be a quitter in regard to the leadership, she certainly is when things get tough and the bullets start to fly. Unlike Corbyn, who seemed to relish the fray and actually performed better once things got a bit rough she ran away pure and simple. I still think that Corbyn is a disaster for Labour and potentially the country. May and the Tories are proving to be no better.
I think you missed the irony in Jet11's post.

It matters not what Mrs May wants as the Tory party could remove her tomorrow with very little effort required

Try as they might, and try they certainly have but the Labour Party simply cannot get rid of Jezza and he is about to change the rules to make getting rid of him even tougher.

That's why U.K. politics is in such a wonderful place right now.

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Old 31st Aug 2017, 07:39
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Meanwhile another of Jezza's Money Tree branches just fell on

Labour NHS spending plans will "leave 7bn funding gap" - Westminster

so many lies and so many folk falling for them
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 07:46
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No, I didn't miss it at all. But I don't think she intends to go quietly. And I'm not even arguing that Labour policy is better, they are both disastrous for the UK.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 08:00
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Matters not whether she goes quietly as if the Tory's want her out she will be.

Jezza on the other hand has a job for life and with the new rule changes coming the Far Left are set to lead the party headlong into extinction which is brilliant for the country.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 08:17
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For those so convinced life in the UK is the proverbial bed of roses and all is well, my distinctly non apologetic offering regarding the reality for many...

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ordable-luxuty
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 08:32
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The Conservatives are expert at defenestration....
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 08:54
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K&C's Guardian reference regarding our prime minister are as usual, completely impartial.

The Global Times, an offshoot of Communist party mouthpiece the People’s Daily, has made an art of ribbing Conservative prime ministers.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 09:07
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Far Left are set to lead the party headlong into extinction which is brilliant for the country.
Wouldn't worry about that the far right of the Conservative party are doing a pretty good job of doing that with the Conservative party who have historically torn themselves apart over Europe and will do so again
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
K&C's Guardian reference regarding our prime minister are as usual, completely impartial.
With regard to the " Global Times", I know, and I'm sure you'll agree such articles are a delight to read. I like their assessment of the UK when Dave popped over to show his famed international statesman qualities.....not that he actually had any mind, but, it was a nice little cosmetic junket was it not.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 12:03
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Wouldn't worry about that the far right of the Conservative party are doing a pretty good job of doing that with the Conservative party who have historically torn themselves apart over Europe and will do so again
Just out of interest, who do you see as the far right of the Conservative party?
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 16:57
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Originally Posted by Rob Courtney View Post
Just out of interest, who do you see as the far right of the Conservative party?
It's pretty well all of them these days, isn't it. But that won't stop them tearing themselves apart over Europe.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 05:55
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I know.....

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...uitter-cartoon

Quite a good depiction really
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 07:35
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Nothing about the Conservative Party is 'far right'. Conservative politicians are democratic, modest in victory and gracious in defeat unlike their opponents (think Pidcock). UKIP is not far right either. Far right is perhaps the BNP (if it still exists). That is so far right it meets the far left, the other head of the same monster.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 09:00
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Originally Posted by Wingswinger View Post
Nothing about the Conservative Party is 'far right'. Conservative politicians are democratic, modest in victory and gracious in defeat unlike their opponents (think Pidcock). UKIP is not far right either. Far right is perhaps the BNP (if it still exists). That is so far right it meets the far left, the other head of the same monster.
About UKIP not being in any way "far right".....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ence-far-right

As for the other bit about Tories being modest and gracious, in equal measure of course, and not even remotely far right...let's conveniently ignore their draconian austerity induced benefits cuts for those least likely or capable of fighting back, which Conservative party and location did you have in mind here ?


Here's one utterly tragic and wholly preventable it seems, result of those cuts....."caring Tories" I believe the hypocritical duplicitous mantra goes.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41112924
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 09:43
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What cuts K & C?

Going from a situation where you are living way way beyond your means to one where you are just living beyond your means is not "cuts".

We are not going to make the lives of the poor any easier in the long term by sticking our heads in the sand and bankrupting the country by "abandoning austerity" when there was no austerity in the first place, just a slight slowing of accumulation of debt! In fact the opposite will be true.

I wonder how many nursing, teaching or police posts could be funded with the 50bn we are p*ssing away in interest payments each year. And that is with a relatively good credit rating (and thereofre interest rate).
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