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Old 24th Jun 2017, 22:16
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
Friends travelling on Southern Train services before election were surprised by amount of Tory voters who were quite happy at idea of Labour renationalising Railways. Bearing in mind the crap service on Southern and Thameslink they viewed it asa better idea that current.
There are a lot of people in favor of renationalisation - and I suspect that number is only going to grow as more of those that can remember the delights of British Rail die off.
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Old 24th Jun 2017, 22:21
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
Can't believe Government owned DB, RATP and Abellio ( in particular ) are going to let Labour simply renationalise the railways and bus services without getting really, really nasty during the BREXIT negotiations.
Bear in mind that our actual rail network is already in (UK) public ownership; it's only the train services which are run by others.

There's a school of thought that says all that's needed is to let the franchises expire........
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Old 24th Jun 2017, 22:24
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
There's a school of thought that says all that's needed is to let the franchises expire........
and then what?
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 01:17
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and then what?

let Diane Abbot run them.........see how the maths works out then
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 10:23
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Corbyn addressed a crowd at Glastonbury yesterday and told them we needed to build bridges, not walls.

Meanwhile, outside Parliament, walls have to be built on bridges to protect people from the terrorists he worships.

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Old 25th Jun 2017, 10:25
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Originally Posted by Jet II View Post
and then what?
The government would run them. (They actually did this with GNER for a while).

Subsequently, of course, trade union militancy would re-asset itself and the railways would start being run for the convenience of the employees rather than the travelling public.......
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 10:46
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Zoom in on the beer mug at the bottom right...



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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:00
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Zoom in on the beer mug at the bottom right...
Not a bad pint, though I prefer Cornish Rattler!

A pint of Corbyn: promises much, but full of gas and leaves an unpleasant aftertaste.
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:09
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
The government would run them. (They actually did this with GNER for a while).

Subsequently, of course, trade union militancy would re-asset itself and the railways would start being run for the convenience of the employees rather than the travelling public.......
And, surprisingly enough the GNER generated a profit, until bearded rail obtained the monopoly of both the West and East Coast mainlines after which, the East Coast has hardly been a resounding success.

Still, that's private enterprise for you.....but enjoy your wallow in nostalgia when it comes to trade unions.....always guaranteed to enhance the status of the poster here on JB with similar minded chaps.

Siti....a teensy point as your own cup doth currently floweth over in some respects, well in respect of Labour and Corbyn anyway, could you kindly expand the photograph or offer a close up of the beer mug in question in order that we may read what is inscribed and which, presumably, doesn't meet with your approval, but may possibly meet with the approval of others?.......and, while you're at it, true, there are now obstructions on bridges, but I'm having difficulty in finding any comments by Corbyn that he worships extremist terrorists groups providing the ideology that results in the terror attacks in the UK...
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:12
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Corbyn addressed a crowd at Glastonbury yesterday and told them we needed to build bridges, not walls.

Meanwhile, outside Parliament, walls have to be built on bridges to protect people from the terrorists he worships.

These the barriers that Boris Johnson turned down when he was London Mayor
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:19
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
These the barriers that Boris Johnson turned down when he was London Mayor
How many terrorist ramming incidents were there when he was Mayor?
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:26
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All that serves to prove is that he didn't have foresight. Had he agreed then the bridge attacks could not have taken place.
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:33
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No bridge attacks

Is the suggestion there wouldn't have been any attacks

Or is the suggestion that we would have had regent street Trafalgar Square etc. Instead ?
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:52
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post

could you kindly expand the photograph or offer a close up of the beer mug in question in order that we may read what is inscribed and which, presumably, doesn't meet with your approval, ...
Someone was holding a beer mug enshrined with Logo 'Thatchers Gold' a pint of cider that I thoroughly enjoy but a logo neither you nor Komrad Corbyn would want to be associated with
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:56
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
And, surprisingly enough the GNER generated a profit, until bearded rail obtained the monopoly of both the West and East Coast mainlines after which, the East Coast has hardly been a resounding success.
And surprisingly enough I agree, and would have left things as they were.

Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
....but enjoy your wallow in nostalgia when it comes to trade unions.....
I wouldn't call it nostalgia. I'm old enough to remember the era of trade union militancy, and I don't want it back. Unfortunately, it still exists to some extent today, the rail unions being possibly the worst culprits.
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 11:58
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Khan was elected mayor of London on 6th May 2016, so he had a year to put in the barriers if they were considered necessary, he didn't. The attack on Westminster Bridge took place on 22nd March, again he had the opportunity to take advice and install the barriers, again he didn't.

The London Bridge attack took place on 3rd June and the barriers have been installed within a couple of weeks, so they could easily have been installed either early in the year or after the Westminster attack. And somehow this failure is now ascribed to Boris Johnson?

Pull the other one.....
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
All that serves to prove is that he didn't have foresight. Had he agreed then the bridge attacks could not have taken place.
Is this a wind up?
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 12:05
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As soon as you defend one obvious source of soft targets they'll find another. Just remember the old IRA dictum: They just have to be lucky once; we have to be lucky all the time.
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 12:16
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[QUOTE=sitigeltfel;9811801]Corbyn addressed a crowd at Glastonbury yesterday and told them we needed to build bridges, not walls.

I will not comment on the quite stupid statement that JC worships terrorists. However, what is actually wrong with taking politics to the people especially when he was invited by the organiser. The fact that he has developed an affinity with younger people while TM clearly has not must annoy tory supporters. Get used to how politics is changing.
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 12:22
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Those of us who wished that the recent GE would rid us of Corbyn have lost out just as much. The Tory incompetence has made him completely secure as leader now and a poll today puts him ahead of May as preferred PM. All that crowing about how he would completely bugger the Labour Party looks a bit odd now.
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