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Old 7th Jun 2017, 17:54
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That MAY be so VP, in which case She has my utmost sympathy as I am having to deal with the same and it is an utter nightmare. But I doubt that is the case until I am proved otherwise. The woman is simply not not fit for purpose, end of. Regardless of any mental disease.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 17:55
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Originally Posted by Seldomfitforpurpose View Post
It could turn out to be only the second known case of "ernestsaundersitis" ever recorded.

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Old 7th Jun 2017, 18:05
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But just look at her policy history. Has it changed? Has her vocabulary changed? I don't see it? It's all the same. So by deduction, I don't see any difference between now and years before? So I will stick my neck on the line and say she is not ill at all, she has been told to shut up, disappear for a couple of days as she is known to be toxic to the labour clowns!
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 18:35
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"Interesting last few pages with ample evidence of the kind and caring nature of our right wing contributors"
Seems appropriate to repeat that opening
Apart from the marvel of KH's telepathic medical diagnostic prowess the usual suspects demonstrate all the finely honed political nous of an old-time Millwall fan.
It has taken me 80 years in this (what is laughingly called democratic) system to be able to cast a vote which counts. I shall do so safe in the knowledge that the lunatics are STILL in charge of the asylum and in the hope that, just maybe, a tiny glimmer of common-sense will cross their vision.
I see no cause for optimism.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 18:39
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... toxic to the labour clowns!
I think that you could point that finger at almost any of them!! Could someone name one of their front-benchers who is competent?

The Cortwit reminds me very much of a professor that we had at university a few decades ago: same beard, same hat, same mannerisms. We used to sit at the back of the lecture hall playing an equivalent of 'bullshit bingo', listing all the marxist terms that he was guaranteed to include in his lecture (and it was a language course, not politics!). He lived quite comfortably as a professor, had spent his entire career in the academic world and had no clue whatsoever about the real world outside. The Cortwit is similar having spent his life living very comfortably as an MP but having no clues about the real world outside. The Millitwit went a long way towards 'Londonising' his party and losing their once massive foothold in Scotland. The Cortwit could be on the point of completing this and effectively downgrading it to the 'London Socialist Party'.

I do feel very sorry for the genuine lefties out there as I feel that their 'team' is letting them down horrendously.

What is a pity is the lack of any credible political opposition in Parliament (the LibDums have disappointed me, will they do better this time?), but then the Tories in the past have demonstrated their ability to provide an 'opposition from within'!

I am optimistic!
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 18:48
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I spent a few years lecturing, part time, not long after I graduated. It was an interesting experience, as the majority of my fellow lecturers, those who worked full time, held political views that were both to the extreme left and wholly impractical in terms of governing the country. I expected this from the social sciences, but the odd thing was that these views even pervaded the physics and chemistry departments, something I never understood.

I got fed up with the politics within higher education, and all the petty squabbles, so as soon as I could manage without the extra income I quit.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 18:59
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I expected this from the social sciences, but the odd thing was that these views even pervaded the physics and chemistry departments, something I never understood
There are innumerable accounts concerning how you have to keep totally quiet about holding anything than at least left of centre of Labour views or never getting hired, fired, or lack of tenure in just about every university in the UK- so hardly surprising.

Totally liberal establishments - unless you disagree with their world view.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 19:31
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Originally Posted by Stan Woolley View Post
Don't you realise that such a balanced post is of no interest to those who simply want to personally insult some parties while aggressively defending their own preferred tribes.

it appears personal abuse of politicians is the only way some can operate, don't notice torys getting same treatment or level of abuse.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 19:35
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Looking at his record he did wel as Mayor of London - well enough to get re-elected for a second term. s
So was Ken Livingstone.....................
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 19:49
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
There are innumerable accounts concerning how you have to keep totally quiet about holding anything than at least left of centre of Labour views or never getting hired, fired, or lack of tenure in just about every university in the UK- so hardly surprising.

Totally liberal establishments - unless you disagree with their world view.
The Daughter works in 'Academia' - now at her 3rd UK University.

I'd have to say that she is totally, absolutely, positively, definitely 101% Politically Correct when it comes to speech, thought, action.

On the other hand, she is 102% non-political.

I asked her about this and how she could reasonably expect a long and rewarding career in 'Academia' if she was going to remain politically uninterested.

'I don't', she answered.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 20:02
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The UK political system;

Conservatives: The rich are never at fault.
Labour: The poor are never at fault.
Lib Dems: It's never OUR fault! (Everyone's friend is really nobody's friend)
SNP: "It's all the fault of the Bastid Ainglish".
UKIP: It's always an immigrants fault.
Green: We just ignore all the facts that don't fit in with our fantasy utopia.

There you go. Take your pick. There is no right or wrong, just vested interests.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 20:36
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Well it seems a couple of my posts got deleted by the moderator? Sorry. Mr PPRuNe, no offence intended.
Interestingly for me, at least, I don't even live in uk but I was born there and hold a British Passport so have an overview interest.
But what I see is the pits of politics the like of which I have never seen? Mrs May was an atrocious home secretary and is dithering every minute on policy to get votes. The labour party are simply a joke but somehow there are masses prepared and only too willing to vote for uk bankcruptsy?
24 hours from now will tell me whether I ever return to the uk or "suffer" my old age in a country that is easy to live in and looks after it's olders at a fraction of the price in uk. How is that then?
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 20:59
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Originally Posted by Kelly Hopper View Post
Well it seems a couple of my posts got deleted by the moderator? Sorry. Mr PPRuNe, no offence intended.
Interestingly for me, at least, I don't even live in uk but I was born there and hold a British Passport so have an overview interest.
But what I see is the pits of politics the like of which I have never seen? Mrs May was an atrocious home secretary and is dithering every minute on policy to get votes. The labour party are simply a joke but somehow there are masses prepared and only too willing to vote for uk bankcruptsy?
24 hours from now will tell me whether I ever return to the uk or "suffer" my old age in a country that is easy to live in and looks after it's olders at a fraction of the price in uk. How is that then?

If you return to the UK after a life overseas you are a foreigner, just because you born here will not make you any less foreign.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 21:03
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Believe me Racedo... The few days a year spent in the uk I feel like a foreigner! Is that a good thing? It is, sorry was, my home country. I see it now as a lost country. Very sad?
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 21:06
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Poor Ms Abbott actually does have some support. But, unfortunately, from the sort of 'well-you-know' type of pseudo-intellectuals

https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017...licit-content/

Yes I know I'm getting on in years, but can someone please explain the sexual definition of the author to me ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Monroe

I understand heterosexual; I understand homosexual; I can even get my head around trans-sexual. But this one ?
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 21:15
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
Poor Ms Abbott actually does have some support. But, unfortunately, from the sort of 'well-you-know' type of pseudo-intellectuals

https://cookingonabootstrap.com/2017...licit-content/

Yes I know I'm getting on in years, but can someone please explain the sexual definition of the author to me ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Monroe

I understand heterosexual; I understand homosexual; I can even get my head around trans-sexual. But this one ?
Quote from that first link:

Diane is a skilled orator, a quick thinker, a glorious debater, a genuine public servant and a thoroughly decent woman.
One has to ask what planet this person is on to have formed such an opinion...........
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 21:42
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Off to the Dark Continent for a couple of weeks tomorrow, so last post for a few days, and love this one.

Sums up everything about the Election - superb....

https://www.facebook.com/bbcthree/vi...4841158040787/
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Kelly Hopper
I see it now as a lost country.
For anyone leaving a country, their memories are stuck in the past. Did you lose the country, or did the country lose you? Whichever way, it was entirely your choice. If you feel like a foreigner it is because you have made yourself a foreigner. If you see that as sad, that is up to you.

I'm here and I'm optimistic. That's not sad.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 22:25
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Well Trossie, we all have our stories to tell.
Mine?.. Life in uk became just too difficult. Too many rules and regs that were standing in the way of common sense. I very recently attempted to find a way back, without really knowing why, and found myself bombarded with more rules, regs, and bullsh1t. I gave up! No worries, it's their loss. I will not be bringing my wealth into the country.
Nowhere is utopia but really, the uk have completely lost the plot. Everything you try to do is laden with issues and problems. They invent them.
In the words of Roger Daltrey... " Oh, yes, I remember the uk, the land of no!"
I simply couldn't agree more.
Perhaps if you were to live overseas for a while you would appreciate where uk is getting it all wrong?
The future for me is not in the uk, that I am pretty sure.
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Old 7th Jun 2017, 23:01
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Kelly Hopper,

I lived and worked overseas for more than half my life in many nice, exotic countries that people pay a lot of money to stay for a few weeks on holiday. Also some absolute s**tholes where I was shot at, had kidnapping attempts and saw some awful and gory things.

On balance I returned to UK (having retired at 56) because the unique character and sense of humour were irreplaceable anywhere else. We are not perfect (far from it), but no other nationality is. However we do have an ability to laugh at ourselves, forgive and forget and flourish under adversity like no other.

Perfect ? definitely not. But this is home and when I go to the pub of my choosing I feel a weird sense of belonging that I never felt in all my years overseas.

Your choice mate.

NEO
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