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Old 12th Feb 2017, 10:14
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Moving house for safety. What's up? The tolerant peace loving liberals after him to shower him with flowers?
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 10:52
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Moving house for safety. What's up? The tolerant peace loving liberals after him to shower him with flowers?
One might suspect that "what's up" is some more not-very-convincing attempts to wriggle out of charges of electoral offences for lying on the acceptance of nomination form about where he lived.

In general it's the job of the agent, rather than the candidate, to go to prison if there's type of dog-up, but in this case there's been no claim that "I signed a blank form and the agent filled in the lies afterwards, and I would have stopped him if I'd known honest guv".
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 11:00
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Meanwhile, in another part of the forest (Stoke), Labour are putting out leaflets out-UKIPping UKIP. I suspect the relevant bits might find themselves reproduced in LibDem leaflets across Remain areas of the country over the coming months, just in case there are any Labour voters left who don't know what their party stands for. (There probably are some - Labour members have only been moving to us by the thousand, not, so far as I know, by the tens of thousand.)


(Apparently some Labour people thought this Labour leaflet was a LibDem leaflet, as they didn't believe their own party had gone so bonkers.)
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 11:49
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When people are looking at Neil Kinnock for guidance

Corbyn's Brexit vote order 'divisive', Lord Kinnock says - BBC News

you know that the Labour Party is definitely on the way out.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 13:13
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No longer having the left in no way implies a 'one party state'. In fact, if you look at one party states around the world right now you will find that the left has more to do with it than the right! Does the 'devout' left have any real place in the modern world? They are not demonstrating that at all well. They are dinosaurs left over from the 20th Century's political aberrations!
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 14:46
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Man tells the truth

Labour MP calls for David Davis to apologise over Diane Abbott jibe

and the fluffs are up in arms about it. Desperate times for the supposed opposition.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 15:00
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Just goes to show how careful you have to be when in the public eye. Davis isn't used to being under scrutiny. We all know the point he was making but to risk texting about it is putting out hostages to fortune.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 16:35
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"Man tells the truth

Labour MP calls for David Davis to apologise over Diane Abbott jibe

and the fluffs are up in arms about it. Desperate times for the supposed opposition


So can we take it you endorse the comments then ?

And lack the capability to comprehend why anybody should even remotely take exception to such being made.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 16:37
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Of course, telling Davies to **** off is statesperson like behaviour and not worthy of condemnation in any way.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 16:44
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Yet another politician slated for telling the truth rather than lying.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 17:26
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
"Man tells the truth

Labour MP calls for David Davis to apologise over Diane Abbott jibe

and the fluffs are up in arms about it. Desperate times for the supposed opposition


So can we take it you endorse the comments then ?

And lack the capability to comprehend why anybody should even remotely take exception to such being made.
Oh the irony coming from our self proclaimed class warrior whose every word (in his opinion) is truth.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 17:33
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" Oh the irony coming from our self proclaimed class warrior whose every word (in his opinion) is truth

I have never proclaimed, as you put it, to be a "class warrior".

I would have thought, however, even to say those like yourself, that it would be rather obvious by now that I have a social conscience and a left wing liberal philosophy with regard to society,

That, and I tend to be far more factual than many on here.

There again, I'm not that self obsessed I need to conform and attempt to impress others of similar traits.....on a website, or, for that matter in my daily life.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 17:58
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
" Oh the irony coming from our self proclaimed class warrior whose every word (in his opinion) is truth

I have never proclaimed, as you put it, to be a "class warrior".

I would have thought, however, even to say those like yourself, that it would be rather obvious by now that I have a social conscience and a left wing liberal philosophy with regard to society,

That, and I tend to be far more factual than many on here.

There again, I'm not that self obsessed I need to conform and attempt to impress others of similar traits.....on a website, or, for that matter in my daily life.
And there you go again, generalising in your familiar throes of self aggrandisement. Of course it is obvious you have left wing views, and quite often I find myself agreeing with you, but your vitriolic attacks against so many detract from the very thoughtful and valid points you make.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 19:53
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" And there you go again, generalising in your familiar throes of self aggrandisement. Of course it is obvious you have left wing views, and quite often I find myself agreeing with you, but your vitriolic attacks against so many detract from the very thoughtful and valid points you make.

Well that's nice to learn in one respect, notably that I make valid points.

In another however, you are fundamentally incorrect.

Unlike many on here, I rarely engage in self -aggrandisement.

And most of the vitriol is directed at me, by those who who qualify for the above statement. There are however, many whose posts lend themselves to more critical appraisal than they would wish, or indeed, such are the ego's, expect.

Where I differ, is that, I really couldn't care less, other that when complete fallacies were offered as being factual statements with regard to my former occupation.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
" There are however, many whose posts lend themselves to more critical appraisal than they would wish, or indeed, such are the ego's, expect.

Where I differ, is that, I really couldn't care less, other that when complete fallacies were offered as being factual statements with regard to my former occupation.
And then you let your own ego loose again. What was your former occupation anyway?
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 20:57
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Just when those poor dear Labour cheerleaders thought it simply could not get any worse

Labour 'carries out secret polls for Corbyn's replacement'

My previous unbridled delight at the thought of particular 'heads continually being hung in shame' is now starting to turn to pity as this really is now becoming an absolute debacle.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 21:36
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These people have more faces than a townhall clock

Tom Watson: Not time for Labour leadership fight - BBC News

I can't begin to imagine the pain that Labour supporters must be suffering right now but I have to say that I genuinely hope that long may it continue.
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Old 12th Feb 2017, 22:05
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I can't begin to imagine the pain that Labour supporters must be suffering right now
The many who have joined us seem, on the whole, deliriously happy. But of course that may be simply because they're now "ex Labour supporters", not "Labour supporters".
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Old 13th Feb 2017, 04:31
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Of course there is a big difference between Labour supporters and Corbyn supporters. Corbyn represents only the group of Metropolitan voters who will go along with all the weird stuff that has driven those in more industrial constituencies into the arms of Ukip.

I can't honestly see those either returning to a Labour, or supporting the Lib Dems, their motivation is their feelings of alienation brought about both by globalisation and the lack of any political grouping that offers them succour. Hence the success of The Donald, he is at least from their viewpoint talking a good game.

I would have thought that the clever move for Tory supporters in the upcoming by elections would be to vote Labour in an attempt to keep Corbyn in post.
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Old 13th Feb 2017, 05:32
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The many who have joined us seem, on the whole, deliriously happy.
The many who joined, paying their 3 to vote for Corbyn as leader, are of course deliriously happy. But I reckon very few of them had Labours best intentions in mind when they did.
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