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Old 6th Oct 2016, 06:15
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" Prophead, you must be mistaken. KnC is simply not capable of making a mistake "

I am actually, having never claimed to be infallible.

However, this is not applicable in this instance.

Prophead advocated people move away from the region, or drive, yet was quite happy to commute himself, and yes, strangely enough I am aware of the operator of HS1.

This being the case, why doesn't he relocate. After all he's as much a commuter as those whom he suggests relocate or find alternative employment nearer to their chosen home and area.

Quite a simple question I would have thought.

And now, back to the future. Or rather the glowing, rose tinted future as foreseen by Saint Theresa which sounded terribly good really, which was her intent after all, and as we know, the Tory's are now the "working people's party".

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...opulist-speech

Unfortunately, the minor detail of not actually including any factual details as to how her vision of Utopian Britain would emerge would not concern the faithful or indeed those naÔve enough to place their faith, and trust, in Tory PR.

The only voice of sanity and reason was, not for the first time, that of Ruth Davidson, a lady who is probably astute enough to avoid the morass of Westminster whilst building a dedicated career for herself as one of the few Tory politicians with any credibility.

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Old 6th Oct 2016, 07:03
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Not sure what credibility people expect from politicians of any colour, Tory labour UKIP lib dem or otherwise

If someone expects credibility from their politicians they have probably relocated to la la land and they are receiving an efficient prompt good value for money and reliable train service from southern.
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 07:10
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Basil, the decision to bin the posters came from an unexpected response to Southern's anti-RMT campaign on Twitter. They urged the public to contact RMT to express their anger at the union's actions. And the travelling public responded with some pretty unflattering comments about Southern's inability to run a bunk up in a brothel (or sentiments to that effect).
The posters are being removed as a result of the union complaining about staff being subject to harassment. So that would be at the union's request, not the company's. Someone at Southern Rail had a moment of clarity and realised their ant-RMT campaign had badly backfired.
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 12:19
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More Lefty lies from the Leftist press, trying to create a smear with an association that doesn't exist...

No, Le Pen Did Not Endorse May's Conference Speech - Guido Fawkes Media Guido

The Indie tried to delete theirs, but the internet doesn't forget.
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 13:12
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'Nuff said.
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 13:23
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If I had to use trains run by Southern I would move either house or office. I have never suggested anyone else had to do the same. Just voiced my own opinion.

Quite a simple statement I would have thought
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It is indeed a very simple statement albeit whilst you might not have said so directly, you implied as much.


[I]" Back to the subject, I see people getting worried, the Tories are starting a campaign to capitalise on backlash against the far left element in Labour. That and the fact UKIP have been made irrelevant means the blue vote will grow.

Labour will end up on the sidelines consisting of aged class warriors, champagne socialists and millitant students who are yet to live in the real world. They are destined to end up somewhere between the loony party and the greens.

I foresee a new breakaway party forming to fill the vacuum, the question is; will it break away from the current Labour or Tory party."


Given your previous offering at foreseeing the future ( notably how we will all work from home and a keyboard with very little interpersonal contact required ) it's possibly not a good idea to continue with outlandish predictions. True, the Tory party will assiduously court any potential voters with their new "caring" image. Some will indeed be gullible enough to embrace it....but in the longer term, and there is a very realistic chance of this happening, a third term of Tory dictatorship does not bode well for the UK. You see, the issue is that, once firmly in power, the Tories are unlikely to countenance any breakaway from within, along with Labour's resurgence in the fullness of time although this may be sooner rather than later given that Tory harmony is tenuous at best

" Someone at Southern Rail had a moment of clarity and realised their ant-RMT campaign had badly backfired.
This is the problem, the travelling public do not care about this petty ongoing battle between Southern and the RMT. Nor do they really care whether a conductor is on the train. They just want to get to work. Not much to ask for when you pay thousands of pounds per year"
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Can you explain please how a dispute, involving as it does employment conditions, safety of the train and the safety of passengers can be classed as "petty".

As a passenger, one of several million who use public transport be this train or bus, I have a very deep interest in my safety and the culture / operations of the operator I am trusting my life to. I get the distinct impression I am far from alone here.

Basil !...an excellent choice of music by the Beeb, although clearly you don't agree....

However, surely with the new emphasis on change, can we now look forward to the Tory faithful rendering this in perfect harmony.....it would seem only fitting really...of course, I could be wrong

The late, incomparable Sam Cooke......sadly the sentiments expressed are as valid today as they were when the song was written.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBlaMOmKV4
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 13:30
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Apparently one of the UKIP MEP's is in serious condition with bleeding on the brain after being hit by another UKIP MEP.
Some sources are hinting that Mike Hookem MEP may be involved.

Allegedly!
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 13:38
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 14:19
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I presume the EU has no diplomatic immunity, so I would anticipate the assailant to be arrested? If the worst occurs, I presume they would be charged with manslaughter?

Ukip's Steven Woolfe collapses after being 'punched' in MEP meeting – live

13:49 These are from Sky’s Robert Nisbet.

"Sources tell me that it was one clear punch to @Steven_Woolfe who banged his head on a metal bar. He collapsed 30 minutes later".

"I am now told by a senior UKIP source that @Steven_Woolfe condition in a Strasbourg hospital "is life threatening"

"I am told @steven_woolfe complained about "losing sensation on one side of his body" before falling unconscious."


13:45 A spokesperson for the Strasbourg police said they had not been called to the parliament and no investigation had been launched so far.
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 14:41
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2:33 Alex Forsyth @AlexForsythBBC

Drs said Steven Woolfe had two 'epileptic like fits' & believed he had bleeding on brain. Am told Steven Woolfe is conscious and his condition has improved in the past two hours
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I foresee a new breakaway party forming to fill the vacuum, the question is; will it break away from the current Labour or Tory party.
Yes call it the Realism Party bases on actions and realistic effects rather than in Old style Ideology stuck as a snapshot in time from years back.
Both Labour and the Conservatives are stuck with their own ideology which they try to promote as modern thinking when its the same old rubbish in a different package and totally blind to the Realistic effects those policies will have in a modern era

Corbyn and Mays Mafia are equally guilty of living in an old ideology stuck in time
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Typical view from a Leftist Little Londoner who is completely out of touch with the rest of the UK.
Well he wouldn't have got the Newsnight gig if he was anything else would he!
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Old 6th Oct 2016, 22:16
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So what do you think about a politician who challenges a colleague to a fight?

John Prescott acted in self-defence when he attacked the egg-thrower.
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Corbyn and Mays Mafia are equally guilty of living in an old ideology stuck in time
Diane Abbot as shadow Home Secretary, seriously? talk about a shortage of talent in the party that will work with Corbyn, it seems as I thought, just because he won the vote, his idea that the party would all forget the falling outs and resignations are like a future Labour Government, a pipe dream. I wonder if Abbot will be an active opposition, or simply a sleeping partner within the Shadow Government.

I use the term Shadow Government loosely as they appear to be a bunch of miscreants and deadbeats.
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So what do you think about a politician who challenges a colleague to a fight?
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Reading most reports I would have thought in most civilised organisations both of these gents would by now have been suspended pending an investigation and then possible disciplinary action. That would have happened regardless of a punch being thrown or not, just the verbals would have been enough to guarantee dismissal from most companies. Seems however those involved want to talk it down as just a strong disagreement between two blokes, good chaps really, salt of the earth, etc.
ďItís two grown men getting involved in an altercation. Itís not very seemly behaviour
said Mr Farage....yup unseemly behaviour that would get lesser mortals thrown off an airplane and probably arrested if travelling "off duty" or the sack if done at work...

Since I'm on a roll.... As someone who is paid in sterling but spends mostly in euros the fact that UKIP MEPS are still spending their working days in Europe and presumably being paid or at the least claiming allowances in euros whilst the pound is sliding as a result of their campaigning doesn't sit well with me either..........

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Diane Abbot as shadow Home Secretary, seriously? talk about a shortage of talent in the party that will work with Corbyn, it seems as I thought, just because he won the vote, his idea that the party would all forget the falling outs and resignations are like a future Labour Government, a pipe dream. I wonder if Abbot will be an active opposition, or simply a sleeping partner within the Shadow Government.

I use the term Shadow Government loosely as they appear to be a bunch of miscreants and deadbeats.
This is Corbyns cunning plan to kill off the Tories. After seeing his latest line up, he hopes they will all die laughing.
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 06:56
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For Labour Party ....read "Et Mort"
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 11:58
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Please God, no!
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Old 7th Oct 2016, 12:46
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More proof, if needed, that Labour are the Nasty Party..

Top Momentum Fixer's Steven Woolfe Slur - Guido Fawkes Guido Fawkes

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Old 7th Oct 2016, 18:20
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Apparently, Steven Woolfe hasn't yet filed his nomination papers for the forthcoming leadership election.
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