Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

UK politics - Hamsterwheel

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

UK politics - Hamsterwheel

Old 2nd Dec 2015, 22:03
  #6601 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Between a rock & a hard place.
Posts: 427
MPs will vote in favour of bombing. The confirmation work was completed prior to the debate.
PC767 is online now  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 08:08
  #6602 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: EGNX country
Age: 64
Posts: 215
And vote for the bombing they did.
I was undecided at the beginning of the debate and watched the whole 10 hour debate. There were excellent speeches from both sides but I must say that the speech from Hialry Benn was outstanding both in it's passion and eloquence.
At the end of the debate I was still undecided though; perhaps because both sides of the argument appeal to my sensibilities
handsfree is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 10:23
  #6603 (permalink)  
Resident insomniac
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N54 58 34 W02 01 21
Age: 75
Posts: 1,859
Don't know.
G-CPTN is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 11:44
  #6604 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oxon
Age: 62
Posts: 1,945
The idea that we are somehow safer at home now we have started bombing Syria is about as stupid as it gets. There are already those living amongst who were/are plotting us harm. The notion that this decision has not angered more of those with radical thoughts who,because they see this decision as a tipping point will now join the plotters so increasing the danger is plainly daft. This will not end well I fear.
Seldomfitforpurpose is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 12:40
  #6605 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: uk
Posts: 895
It's all quite unimportant according to R4 BBC News all morning, the only thing of any importance is bloody Pistorius which was the lead story up to midday.
vulcanised is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 21:58
  #6606 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 4,679
This will not end well I fear
So perhaps you feel that we should just step aside. Do nothing as they worm through Syria and then the northern Sahara countries. Then they move into Europe and the fear of doing anything against them allows them to subjugate whole tranches of cities with a high immigrant population. It is then a small step; with sufficient firepower and sleepers in the right places to achieve their ultimate aim; an Islamist Europe.
Fareastdriver is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 22:21
  #6607 (permalink)  
Resident insomniac
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N54 58 34 W02 01 21
Age: 75
Posts: 1,859
Then they move into Europe and the fear of doing anything against them allows them to subjugate whole tranches of cities with a high immigrant population. It is then a small step; with sufficient firepower and sleepers in the right places to achieve their ultimate aim; an Islamist Europe.
That's democracy . . .
G-CPTN is offline  
Old 3rd Dec 2015, 22:51
  #6608 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oxon
Age: 62
Posts: 1,945
Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
So perhaps you feel that we should just step aside. Do nothing as they worm through Syria and then the northern Sahara countries. Then they move into Europe and the fear of doing anything against them allows them to subjugate whole tranches of cities with a high immigrant population. It is then a small step; with sufficient firepower and sleepers in the right places to achieve their ultimate aim; an Islamist Europe.
Consider what we have done over the last 20 odd years and ask yourself if we are any closer to being safe here at home. I never said we should not be bombing however the ridiculous notion suggesting it now makes us safer is utter bolleaux.
Seldomfitforpurpose is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 00:06
  #6609 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: A little south of the "Black Sheep" brewery
Posts: 373
So maybe we would be safer if we had been bombing a heck of a long time ago already?
Trossie is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 00:27
  #6610 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oxon
Age: 62
Posts: 1,945
Or maybe if we had not fallen for the dodgy dossier, or even left Kuwait to the Arabs to sort out............
Seldomfitforpurpose is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 03:34
  #6611 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 936
I now feel remarkably safe, as you would expect, thanks to Dave's dynamic intervention....and even more so with the expected onslaught of 70000 ground forces to follow up the air strikes.....quite how this seemingly cobbled together alliance and numbers was / will be achieved however may well rival the WMD / 45 mins launch time claims.....although I am sure every attempt was made to ensure the accuracy of the figures provided.....we wouldn't want the public to be deceived in any way after all.

Meanwhile, UKIP expanded their geographical horizons..... if nothing else.

Jeremy Corbyn hails Oldham West and Royton by-election victory - BBC News

However...less the rabid right feel they are missing a figurehead, they can relax !......C4 carried an interview last night with one Mr T. Robinson ( other names available on request ) and his new venture albeit a more, allegedly, refined version of the EDL.

The best is yet to come....also interviewed was the proposed leader of this fledgling salvation of UK society.....

http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-up

Note the, ahem, gravitas, the enunciation, the inflection and articulation of the answers to perfectly valid questions....there was a small hiccup at the beginning, sadly....it's all too easy to forget your last name as we know....

Astute viewers will also note the extensive and comprehensive vocabulary of said leader...."stuff"..... in particular.... being rather prominent in this finely honed oratory.

Last edited by Krystal n chips; 4th Dec 2015 at 06:45.
Krystal n chips is online now  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 09:42
  #6612 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Clarty Waters, UK
Age: 54
Posts: 907
Originally Posted by Prophead View Post
Why have you suddenly stopped banging on about the bullying in the Tory party by the way? It was your latest hot issue a couple of days ago.
I did say it would be quickly forgotten........
Andy_S is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 10:08
  #6613 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Luberon
Age: 68
Posts: 902
Corbyns Commie Cadre have been sending death threats and pictures of dead babies to Labour MPs who voted for bombing action.

They somehow failed to notice the photos of dead tourists in Egypt, Tunisia, Mumbai and Bangkok, the gays being thrown off high buildings then stoned to death if they survived, the restaurant diners and club goers in Paris, the Charlie Hebdo staff, the journalists and aid workers having their throats slit, the Jewish supermarket massacre..........and much more.

Obviously none of these victims is of any concern to the Left, simply meaningless statistics in the struggle to impose their Fascistic jackboot on those who stand up to them.
sitigeltfel is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 17:43
  #6614 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 936
" KnC, Your desperation to label everybody as a right wing bigot is typical leftie behaviour.

I generally find the description is apt for those to whom it is applied.

Had you bothered to read the post, you may have noticed the letters EDL followed this definition, the one you seem so confused about.

If you can offer a better definition for the EDL and other rabid right groups, please feel free to enlighten us....unless, of course, you either tacitly or directly agree with their political stances and their violence .


Why have you suddenly stopped banging on about the bullying in the Tory party by the way? It was your latest hot issue a couple of days ago. I thought you were going to get a few more days out of it whilst real issues were being discussed by others. Could it be because the Corbynists have been busy bullying and intimidating all the Labour members who voted

Again, and sadly even more so with the above, you seem to have missed tht recent developments in the Tory's "less than finest hour" ...notably that m'learned friends are now involved....and hence, despite the unctuous piety of Andy S, the matter has not exactly gone away....far, far, from it in fact.

I do not condone, and neither would most people, irrespective of their political allegiances, the alleged intimidation we have read and viewed concerning Labour MP's and how they chose to vote.

There is however, one rather salient fact and difference between the two forms of bullying and intimidation.

In the case of Labour, it was immature, facile and confined to verbal and literal abuse.

in the case of the Tories, despite warnings to the highest level it seems, tragically a young man lost his life as a result.

That would seem, to me and no doubt millions of others, to be a rather prominent distinction.
Krystal n chips is online now  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 18:12
  #6615 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 425
Siti,

They somehow failed to notice the photos of dead tourists in Egypt, Tunisia, Mumbai and Bangkok, the gays being thrown off high buildings then stoned to death if they survived, the restaurant diners and club goers in Paris, the Charlie Hebdo staff, the journalists and aid workers having their throats slit, the Jewish supermarket massacre..........and much more.
Can you let me know how a handful of Tornadoes and Typhoons would stop any of the abovementioned?
BillHicksRules is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 18:28
  #6616 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Luberon
Age: 68
Posts: 902
Originally Posted by BillHicksRules View Post
Siti,

Can you let me know how a handful of Tornadoes and Typhoons would stop any of the abovementioned?
What are you on about? My post was aimed at the cowards using the anonymity of social media to threaten the democratic process. Trying to link it to the bombing is just.....well....silly.
sitigeltfel is offline  
Old 4th Dec 2015, 19:07
  #6617 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Scotland
Posts: 425
Siti,

Your full post was;

Corbyns Commie Cadre have been sending death threats and pictures of dead babies to Labour MPs who voted for bombing action.

They somehow failed to notice the photos of dead tourists in Egypt, Tunisia, Mumbai and Bangkok, the gays being thrown off high buildings then stoned to death if they survived, the restaurant diners and club goers in Paris, the Charlie Hebdo staff, the journalists and aid workers having their throats slit, the Jewish supermarket massacre..........and much more.

Obviously none of these victims is of any concern to the Left, simply meaningless statistics in the struggle to impose their Fascistic jackboot on those who stand up to them.
Short memory.

You linked the bombing action, and opposition to it, to the atrocities you listed.

So can you now answer my question?
BillHicksRules is offline  
Old 6th Dec 2015, 04:01
  #6618 (permalink)  
Thought police antagonist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Where I always have been...firmly in the real world
Posts: 936
Oh dear...

Sadly, following his introduction to an awed public, " a vacancy now exists" it seems. Last item below.....

http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-up

Any of you chaps thinking of applying perchance ?

Although failing that, given the "flexibility" of its membership over the years, a few UKIP defectors may well emerge for this strategic and much coveted position.

But now, for all those on here whose bias is as far from unconscious as you can get....some celebratory news !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35019020

It would be churlish therefore not to note this achievement....we can wait until after his departure for a more subjective appraisal as to the damage inflicted on UK society......however, a picture paints a thousand words does it not ?

Hence the "rather unfortunate pose" in the last shot and, a more than a passing resemblance to Sir Alan B'stard in the second.

Don't overdo the "Gordon's" with your cornflakes this morning chaps.

Last edited by Krystal n chips; 6th Dec 2015 at 05:26.
Krystal n chips is online now  
Old 6th Dec 2015, 09:15
  #6619 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oxon
Age: 62
Posts: 1,945
Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post


Why have you suddenly stopped banging on about the bullying in the Tory party by the way? It was your latest hot issue a couple of days ago. I thought you were going to get a few more days out of it whilst real issues were being discussed by others. Could it be because the Corbynists have been busy bullying and intimidating all the Labour members who voted

Again, and sadly even more so with the above, you seem to have missed tht recent developments in the Tory's "less than finest hour" ...notably that m'learned friends are now involved....and hence, despite the unctuous piety of Andy S, the matter has not exactly gone away....far, far, from it in fact.

I do not condone, and neither would most people, irrespective of their political allegiances, the alleged intimidation we have read and viewed concerning Labour MP's and how they chose to vote.

There is however, one rather salient fact and difference between the two forms of bullying and intimidation.

In the case of Labour, it was immature, facile and confined to verbal and literal abuse.

in the case of the Tories, despite warnings to the highest level it seems, tragically a young man lost his life as a result.

That would seem, to me and no doubt millions of others, to be a rather prominent distinction.
In the case of Labour would you describe the following as immature, facile, verbal and literal abuse which eventually resulted in the death of a man

Dr David Kelly: 10 years on, death of scientist remains unresolved for some | Politics | The Guardian

Probably the clearest and most despicable example of a government hounding a man to his death that would seem, to me and no doubt millions of others some thing that your dear Tone will eventually answer for, if not in this life then certainly when his pious conversion to Rome sees him meet his maker, hopefully sooner rather than later
Seldomfitforpurpose is offline  
Old 6th Dec 2015, 11:18
  #6620 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Cambridge, England, EU
Posts: 3,437
I do have difficulty getting my head around how anyone could think that jobs and/or politics were important enough to commit suicide over. Personal relationships, family things, that sort of stuff, I find it much easier to understand.


But hey, what do I know, wouldn't be it be boring if we were all the same.
Gertrude the Wombat is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.